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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Might be an exposure thing. If you're vegan and you go online for the explicit purpose of talking about veganism to sttangers, you're going to attract haters. That goes for anything. Politics, veganism, parenting, car enthousiasts, movie fandoms, etc..

If you keep to your own, you won't experience the same hate.

I'm not saying you should hide your opinions, but you should mind the context in which you out them. Also, just brush it off, don't let others define you.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It's the preachy judgmentalism that has led to the hatred of vegans. Of course I'm not trying to say all vegans are like that, it's obviously a vocal minority. Most just eat their damn food and live their life.

But I can't even tell you how many times I've been attacked on places like this and Reddit when I commented about meat.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 6 months ago

It’s like everything else, no one has a problem with probably 99.9% of vegans, it’s just the ones that want to pretend they are better than other people because they don’t eat meat.

The rest of them are fine.

Plus text is forever unless deleted, someone could have typed it 5 months ago, but it is still there as fresh as if it had been said 5 minutes ago, so there is a lot of aggregation involved.

If you say it, only the people around you hear and then it’s gone.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I think some meat lovers get aggressively opposed to vegan ideas because they know that vegans are morally correct. I say this as a meat lover

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (14 children)

I don't think they're more morally correct. Because I don't think it's morally incorrect to eat another animal.

We can debate the treatment of animals in how they are kept. But that's another topic. And a wide one because it varies a lot depending on where you're from.

[–] rudyharrelson@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s morally incorrect to eat another animal.

I don't think most vegans think so, either. It isn't the eating in and of itself, but the suffering that occurs on the path to being food. Gas (petroleum) is widely considered vegan because, even though it's made from dead animals (dinosaurs), they didn't suffer and weren't exploited to create it; they died of natural causes. Vegans (typically, I believe) don't consider eating meat to be cruel if the animal dies of natural causes. Steer, aka castrated bulls, get their balls chopped off because it helps produce more meat (ironically steer are more muscular than bulls, TIL). I'm a guy (albeit not a vegan), and it isn't hard for me to see that's unnecessarily cruel and inhumane treatment.

We can debate the treatment of animals in how they are kept. But that’s another topic.

It's not a separate topic at all. Vegans primarily care about animal suffering, which is a direct result of how the industry largely operates. Not all vegans are opposed to simply killing an animal to survive; that isn't the core issue for most. Yes, killing an animal for food can be avoided, but as long as it's a quick/clean kill, like an arrow to a major artery, it's fine from a survivalist perspective because it's humane and not unnecessarily cruel.

The meat industry is accountable for the undeniable mistreatment of animals in the course of producing food for the masses.

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[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Because many people see it as political, or at least moral. And that means they want to "pick a side"

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Because y'all are fuckin annoying. Good for you on not using animal products. I'm glad you have something you care a lot about. I dont need to hear about it every second of the day though. Vegans IRL generally dont preach about it but online people get on their sop boxes more consistently.

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