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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I generally try not to bring it up, but I know folks that've resumed eating meat and we're welcomed back with high-fives. This argues against the "preachy" argument in this thread. And people don't get criticized the same way over eating unnutritious fast food all the time. My view is that some people feel criticized by other folks' different life choices. When Alice to be in an out group, Betty is confronted with their own life choices.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Right. I see what you mean but I think what you're asking for is impossible to ascertain

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's simple: if you don't shove your ways in other people's faces, it's fine. If you do, it's not.

I don't care if you're vegan, but if you throw a BBQ and man the grill but don't cook any meat because it's not what you want, you're inviting criticism.

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[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Same reason people who love fossil fuels hate people who are worried about global warming

Because strident, belligerant activists don't raise awareness, they just make people hate them. I'm sure there's a generalizable lesson in here somewhere.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its the extreme. The idea of reducing meat consumption over eliminating it is not met kindly by many vegans and vegan communities. I also see a lot of down play of the nutrient challenge discussion. Now like anything on the internet the extremes tend to be the most vocal. I have personally known vegans who are pretty happy if people are even reducing meat consumption at all or being lacto/ovo pescatarians or such. Its really bad as sometimes the message is if your not going to go full on vegan than your personally responsible for destroying the planet (much like all responsibility for palastinian suffer is because joe bidens the one doing the genocidin) and you might as well eat meat at every meal. The reaction of this for non vegans is very often F these folks and you know what I think I will go out and have a triple bacon cheese burger right now because they taste great.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason ethical vegans don't like reductionism is because it's still fundamentally speciesist. It's like if someone goes to see a dog fight every week, people get mad at them for supporting animal abuse, so they only go once a month instead. Is it technically better? Yes. Is it still fucked up? Also yes.

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[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Might be an exposure thing. If you're vegan and you go online for the explicit purpose of talking about veganism to sttangers, you're going to attract haters. That goes for anything. Politics, veganism, parenting, car enthousiasts, movie fandoms, etc..

If you keep to your own, you won't experience the same hate.

I'm not saying you should hide your opinions, but you should mind the context in which you out them. Also, just brush it off, don't let others define you.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago

It’s like everything else, no one has a problem with probably 99.9% of vegans, it’s just the ones that want to pretend they are better than other people because they don’t eat meat.

The rest of them are fine.

Plus text is forever unless deleted, someone could have typed it 5 months ago, but it is still there as fresh as if it had been said 5 minutes ago, so there is a lot of aggregation involved.

If you say it, only the people around you hear and then it’s gone.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's the preachy judgmentalism that has led to the hatred of vegans. Of course I'm not trying to say all vegans are like that, it's obviously a vocal minority. Most just eat their damn food and live their life.

But I can't even tell you how many times I've been attacked on places like this and Reddit when I commented about meat.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because y'all are fuckin annoying. Good for you on not using animal products. I'm glad you have something you care a lot about. I dont need to hear about it every second of the day though. Vegans IRL generally dont preach about it but online people get on their sop boxes more consistently.

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