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    [–] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

    This is true, I wanted to play a game and it looked broken in Linux. When I went back to Windows I discovered that it was a problem with the game. Then I went back to Linux and it ran better than it did in Windows.

    Typical Ubisoft experience.

    [–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty sure that 90% of Linux users don't switch to Windows.

    [–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I thought it meant 90% of the ones switching to windows

    [–] StarMage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

    That's what I had in mind

    [–] svnipni@lemy.lol 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I still boot to windows every now and then to play games. But each time windows painfully reminds me why I hate it

    [–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    I have never liked Windows. Unix workstations or linux pretty much since the mid 80's. My current pet peeve is companies that block email clients except Outlook from connecting to their mail server (Exchange).

    [–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

    ill never get sick of this meme format lol so funny

    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    I don't have problems in linux

    I am the problem in linux

    [–] s1nistr4@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Linux pros: You have control over everything Linux cons: You have control over everything

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    That's why immutable distros will bring more Linux users in the future.

    [–] davemeech@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Are we talking something like NixOS?

    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    NixOS is semi-immutable but not really designed to be user friendly. I think we are more talking about Universal Blue, Fedora SilberBlur, OpenSUSE microOS, VanillaOS and so on.

    [–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

    Tbh I'm pretty new to nixos, but I'm starting to believe if we had that the exact same config (at least without flakes, I'm still having trouble undertanding them) but with a slightly abstracted UI, it would be one of the most user-friendly distros out there.

    Like just imagine being able to click "Add program", write the name of a program, having all the options appear below as dropdown menus or on/off switches, then click big blue button "Apply" to rebuild.

    [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    *mint (nothing else)

    -windows 11 user

    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    sinde when did linux have to make tables immune?

    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    ???

    Lookup the definition of immutable and then lookup what an immutable Linux distro is.

    We were specifically talking about immutable Linux OSes/distros

    [–] electro1@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    If you really want to run Linux : Distro hop

    [–] cron@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

    If you are not happy, then try a few more distros.

    [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Actually more like a self fulfilling prophesy

    IMO many will leave Linux just before finding the fix!

    I had tried dual boot but kept going back to windows because i knew how to do things there without having to mess with anything

    Its only after i removed windows altogether and only ran Mint, that i was forced to seriously look for solutions. Once you do find them though, you dont need to mess around with anything that much any more

    [–] mortalic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    A suggestion for everyone that's kinda new, and to be honest, grizzled vets too... Use chatgpt as a trouble shooting tool. It's really surprising how good it is sometimes. I've had it write bash scripts in minutes, solve obscure Firefox issues, fix game settings for barely compatible games... So many things

    [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Principally not a bad idea, but run a local model while at it!

    [–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

    Not very accessible, in the vast majority of (troubleshooting, nothing private) cases free gpt is the best option (fast, free, openAI training on that chat might even be beneficial to the community). Decent GPU's for LLM are stupid pricey.

    [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    "When he reached the New World, Cortezh burned hish ships. Ash a reshult hish men were well motivated." —Capt. Ramius, played by Sean Connery in The Hunt for Red October

    [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I mean, if you duel boot, it's just a matter of time until Windows nukes your other OS. At least with me, my Linux was about to solve world peace, but Windows got wind of that and shut it the fuck down.

    Meme is correct, they're coming for you.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Reminded me how Windows would set the hardware clock to different timezone that Linux uses, can't remember which.

    It would make my blood boil, that's when I decided to never boot it again. 100% Linux everywhere, I get it on routers when I can.

    [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Windows sets the hardware clock to local time, Linux sets it to UTC. It's possible to tell one to respect the others preference

    [–] Strykker@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

    So that's why windows always has the wrong time after I've been in my Linux install...

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

    I will never expect Windows to respect any preference. Updates burnt me too many times.

    Linux for life.

    [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I almost wanted to correct you and say its dual not duel, but when I think about it windows will fight to be the only bootloader right when you think its finally behaving.

    [–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

    Wanted to say the same: the typo made the comment better. There has to be a community for this.

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I have never had this issue on Mint/Windows duel boot

    [–] Muscar@discuss.online 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    I have been running it for at least 6 months if not longer. So , I think that's a valid sample size

    [–] Doxin@yiffit.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Windows basically never nukes the actual linux install. It DOES like breaking the bootloader though. Which is fixable but still deeply annoying.

    [–] svnipni@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago

    Ah damn this is exactly what happened a few days ago. My popos boot entry suddenly disappeared. I can still just boot from the physical ssd it's installed on, but I found it strange it just pooped out somehow. Any pointers on how to fix it?

    [–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Ok so I am probably gonna curse in the Linux church but please enlighten me

    I have one laptop with windows 10 for the simple stuff: internet, movie, ms office. It functions perfectly. Yes it needs a reboot sometimes. I don't understand what people are saying about how terrible ms in regard for easy users.

    I mean I get it that it probably using my data, which would be actually enough to change.

    However: all these post about how easy it is to fix stuff in Linux (and thus saying it is not working properly)... Keeps me in ms.

    What are you guys doing that needs so much tinkering that needs to be fixed constantly?

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Have you been on a microsoft forum with people talking about windows? I bet you most people will be looking for help.

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    [–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Look I understand your point, but for me it functions for what it needs to do. So i don't need a very specific tech support answer

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago

    for me it functions for what it needs to do

    Same for me and same for many linux users 👍

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    [–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I am never going to install linux on my gaming pc. It is too much work if you are into multiplayer/live service games. Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    you dropped this "/s" somewhere along the line

    [–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

    Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    That would leave you without an operating system tho.

    [–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

    Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    Does Windows count as "ms crap" ?

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Lol, putting the worst documented distro on the planet on the table is interesting. The majority of people new to linux would switch back to windows within minutes if they had to install and use nixOS.

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    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    NixOS isn't bad but your right it could be explained better.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago

    In terms of stability and packages, it's an amazing OS. Gone are the days of being afraid that of updates or system upgrades that might leave your system borked. Unless you're experimenting with filesystems and boot parameters, it's not straightforward to fuck things up.

    On the flipside, by Linus is it difficult to get things working as a beginner. Good luck packaging new stuff, good luck creating new options, good luck cross-compiling, good luck configuring stuff with hardcoded config paths in /var/ or whatever, actually good luck understanding how to configure existing packages, good luck getting any kind of PR merged without the say-so of a chosen few, good luck changing anything in the community without getting past the gatekeepers, and have fun understanding why some random package is being installed and/or compiled when you switch to a new configuration.

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