Translation: Trump has not yet been able to derail the latest attempt to hold him accountable for his actions, and has been forced to endure the most basic levels of decorum in a courtroom setting, like not directly threatening jurors.
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Or remaining seated whilst the judge leaves the court.
One of the jurors gets all their news from Twitter and truth social. If this jury comes back anything but hung, I'll be shocked.
Where did you see that information? Genuinely curious cause I love losing all hope again and again.
NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/nyregion/trump-trial-jury-news.html
You're right to ask for a source, much misinformation around.
🫡 Thanks for the source.
I wonder why the prosecution didn't use a peremptory dismissal on that juror.
On legal breakdown they mentioned that the lawyers may have been satisfied based on other answers. They don't think it's a win, just hopeful this is the case.
To me, it should be disqualifying to get your news from the defendents organization.
There's 6 alternate jurors too, the second they show any kind of MAGA bias or proof they can't be impartial they'll pull them and replace them with one of the alternates.
Jury selection is black magic, gut instinct, and random chance. Someone read their questionnaires/listened to the answers and told themselves a story that ended with 'better not preempt.'
Outside of those big money private firms paying money for body language experts, voir dire is a crap shoot where you're just hoping to get rid of the nut jobs.
I saw a matrix posted recently showing each juror number and what new sources they primarily use. I’m too lazy to look it up, but I believe that is public information.
Perhaps another user who is less lazy can find it.
"I'm like really fucking stupid, basically retarded, but sure I can be fair and impartial."
If you're out of preempts, there's juror number 11.
JUSTICE.
Which, of course, is in Trumps best interest. A mistrial may cause it to go back through the court (delays) or may cause the case to be dropped. Regardless, the judge is unlikely to have much say once the jury is deliberating.
So yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up.
I’d be interested in seeing a source for the Truth Social claim. The New York Times article about the jurors doesn’t mention that at all. It seems like it would be a rather noteworthy thing if a juror got their news from a source owned by the defendant.
It's also the NYT just a different article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/nyregion/trump-trial-jury-news.html
"Met his match"? Trump meets his match every time he encounters an 8-year-old boy with emotional control issues. He only gets away with shit because he's a useful pawn.
I cannot imagine what this guy and his family are going through right now. I wish them all the best…it’s got to be stressful given what we’ve heard about some of the (potential) jurors already.
Merchan deserves no such indignity.
When jail?
Never.
Why?
This.. is.. America! [kicks a homeless vet down a hole]
Surely this time it will be different!
I can hear Capone and Gotti laughing and saying the same thing.