US is gonna go to war against Iran aren't they? And over something as stupid as protecting israel's genocide.
First Thought made a great video on what that could look like
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Jesus Christ the opening to that video had me guessing for a moment until I calmed down and realized it's obviously a hypothetical. Given that it's reported that Iranian officials consider their attack "concluded", it would be great if all the players stepped away from escalation into open war. The video I linked talks about the pressure on both Iran and Israel to back down, and here's hoping they do. The world really really doesn't need yet another open war in the Middle East, USA-involved or otherwise.
Yeah I also thought for a second I had somehow missed a fucking nuclear bombing
I have no sympathy for any US soldiers who die defending genocidal states.
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I think it would be an incredibly unpopular decision by Biden, and the American people would not support a war with Iran. I also think that it would be a tactical mistake, given how many US assets are within Iranian striking distance right now. The US military is having recruiting issues currently, and a war will not help that.
However, I wouldn't be surprised to see ISIS attacks in Iran start to happen more frequently.
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US will play defense unless Iran does something really stupid and launches a large ballistic missile attack of some kind, or directly attacks US military. Even then, proportional response policy would probably mean strikes against missile facilities only.
No amount of drones sent against Israel will result in the US opening an actual war with Iran.
I feel like that wouldn't go down well if the US government tried that.
Maybe I don't understand the average American, but it's certainly seemed like people realized the last wars in the Middle East were a waste of time and life.
This might've mattered if the state worked for the people, but the only people a bourgois/liberal "democracy" serves are the capitalists. And the US MIC would love more war.
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What's crazy about this whole situation is Iran attacked Israel because Israel bombed Iran's embassy in Syria killing a general and 6 others... and governments are telling Iran not to overreact.
Like bruh, how would you react if your embassy was bombed in a 3rd country killing your general and 6 other nationals
And somehow the elected leader of our country is going against the will of the population by supporting israel and dragging us into another massive war.
The word "massive" is an understatement
Iran has kept their end of the bargain of not attacking US targets. Of course the US does not keep theirs of not interfering, and shoots down Iranian drones instead.
In a written message to Washington, Iran “warned the US not to get dragged into Netanyahu’s trap”, Mohammad Jamshidi, the Iranian president’s deputy chief of staff for political affairs, wrote on X, referring to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The US should “step aside so that you don’t get hit”.
“In response, the US asked Iran not to hit American targets,” Jamshidi said.
Related to bargaining, I read the wiki article on Iran’s nuclear program the other day and was surprised at how hard they are trying to do their nuclear program “by the book” while the US keeps blocking everyone else from agreeing that they’re entitled as long as they follow the guidelines (paris agreement etc).
Literally this
Iran needs to get nukes fast. The US will be itching for war until it does.
This is why I was cheering when North Korea got nukes.
North Korea is a horrific shit show but war against North Korea would almost certainly end in direct conflict with China.
Now that NK has nukes there is zero risk of the West initiating a conflict. The risk is too high.
Any change in NK will need to happen internally or by pressure from their allies. Which sucks for the NK people but is probably still less horrific than war.
The current problems in the DPRK stem from the brutal sanctions. Prior to the USSR's overthrow when the sanctions had far less effect, the North was developing and urbanizing faster than the South, even with 20% of its population killed, and all its infrastructure destroyed, by the US.
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Agree with you on the nukes of course. The DPRK would've ended up like Libya is right now and the US might have been at war against China if they didn't develop their nuclear deterrence.
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Workplace democracy in action.
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Stop bailing Israel out. They literally bombed an embassy. They do not need the G7 to help them.
The man really wants his reelection to die on this hill
Honestly at this point anybody who needs Trump not to win should be organising their life as if he already has and will come into office next January.
I always say the Berlin wall went up overnight, don't wait for things to get worse before planing your escape.
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"All Joe Biden had to do was stay the fuck out of the middle east for a few months and the election was his..."
The US has been tied to Israel since its founding.
No matter who (or what party) was in the white house, the US would be propping up Isreal after the Hamas attack.
Just like it has done for decades.
Same as Israel was always going to move on Palestine, we were always going to unequivocally support it.
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Wow so glad this is the lesser evil I'll have to vote for. Fuck this country man.
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You'd think a guy with a lifetime in politics would understand optics better than this.
What do you mean? He knows young democrats will just fall in line no matter what he does because he's not trump.
And if they don't, he can count on other Democrats to try and browbeat them and shame them into voting for him no matter what he does, screeching, "But Trump!" as loud as they can.
He sure is trying his best to make his actions indefensible to as wide a swath of the Democratic electorate as he can, now, and just banking on "Hey, I tossed you a few crumbs, and have you seen the other guy?"
Young democrats are probably the ones least likely to fall in line.
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US Empire gotta Empire, even though Israel struck first.
Fuck off Brandon
There's definitely something we ask don't know about the US and Israel. There's got to be some massive secret. Because there's no other good explanation.
Israel is the US's unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East. It's strategically priceless for US world domination.
Israel is basically where all of the NSA spyware gets developed.
Also border technology.
Money and an influencial foothold in the Middle East. It's a secret because power and money are withheld from you and all of us.
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"World's biggest terrorist organisation supports genocidal sky-fairy worshippers"
Oh, quelle surprise
Ah… election year isnt it?
Aiding and abetting criminals.
We've heard this all before, U.S. is now agreeing to supply an endless chain of terrorist engagements in surrounding areas of the states involved. Get ready to hear about rocket seiges and mid city suicide bombings. This is so stupid, worst diplomacy ever.
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