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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They "solved" their population explosion with the one child rule. Can't wait to see how they "solve" this new population problem.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Probably not far off from reality pretty soon.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Importing Russian bloc women but instead of strippers and circus acts as they are now they'll be bred.

[–] Mago@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China is racist af so not happening.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is super racist, but Han Chinese men are being offered money to marry Uyghur women. Ya know to expedite that whole genocide thing. So, I could see them doing that.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Longshanks shit that is

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm familiar; more homogenous societies normally are outwardly less accepting-- everyone will be against it until their pension checks stop coming.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahh yes. Men telling women they have to fuck men.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And pop out crotch goblins.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have a population of 30 Million men with no prospect of a Chinese wife due to the one-child policy that favored male birth. I'd say your take is pretty spot-on.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say no prospect, I say many of them are probably gay. Unless gay people don’t exist in China like they, apparently, “don’t exist” in Iran.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, they exist, but then so do lesbian women.

The existence of homosexuality doesn't make the gender imbalance any less painful.****

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Painful? I mean, that’s a bit much.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the dude who will probably never have a partner.

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

It's only a matter of time before it becomes mandatory.

Xi's policies were on this path a while

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think any country has liberated women and increased birthrates after have they?

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thats not the reason, but economics is. For example Korea and Japan – where the gender norms are pretty conservative – have a lot lower birthrate than Sweden – one of the most equal countries. It more depends on wealth being the most important factor, social security systems and workforce participation of women.

So either avoid getting wealthy, get a lot of immigration or get the social security systems in place to make it easy getting kids.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

In general yes, but it hard to single out women rights

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Chinese government has to start a "new trend of free speech" for example

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

aka "our society is fucked"

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


HONG KONG, Oct 30 (Reuters) - Chinese President Xi Jinping said women have a critical role and must establish a "new trend of family", as the nation grapples with an ageing population and record decline in the birth rate.

Xi in comments, published on state news agency Xinhua on Monday, said the role of women had been part of a discussion with the new leadership team of the All China Women's Federation, which operates under the Communist Party.

Factors including high childcare costs, career hindrance, gender discrimination and not wanting to get married have deterred many young Chinese women from having children.

The number of births is closely tied to marriage rates because official policies make it hard for single women to have children.

In the last two years, authorities across China have unveiled measures to lift the country's birth rate including financial incentives and boosting childcare facilities.

The state media has often linked population development to the strength and "rejuvenation" of the country.


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[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is too late to avoid the workforce and demographic squeeze.

Considering the following simple thought experiment:

  1. Even if every abled, capable and freely willing women in China were immediately given:
  • 1.a. unlimited financial support

  • 1.b. complete freedom in choosing their partner

  • 1.c. flexible maternity leave (2 to 5 years)

  • 1.d. readily available at home cleaning and at home cooking/cartering services

  • 1.e. best in class psychological and medical services and follow ups

  • 1.f. excellent daycare and world class education;

    1. the first children born the following year won't be able to work and contribute to the economy until 18 years later (or whenever they enter the workforce; at best 14 and ideally at 23-25 after university).

Hence, I am inclined to suppose that, at best (least controversial), the Chinese Com·unist Part.y could do is to try and attenuate the economic slowdown and decay. How? I do not know.

At worst, they implode on themself and/or start a looks-like-we-are-doing-something war.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Immigration could supplement the workforce in the meantime, but who would want to go to China voluntarily? Not to mention that would require a massive culture and legislative shift for the country.