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Wrong company, it would be Gemini in this case

To be fair it's a pretty terrible dataset. The AI is just going to say "this" to every question you ask

Perhaps, but not worth buying if you can't make profit or keep it from your competition.

60M is for over almost 20 years of data, but once it's ingested, google will only want new content. Next year, it'll be more like 3M if the dataset isn't poisoned by bots or the AI fad hasn't collapsed. Reddit will struggle with finances again and users will suffer. At least that's my prediction.

I wonder if Google's unlimited legal budget plays a role. Not a lawyer, so probably way off here...

But, for example, reddit's success in part depends on Google ingesting their data

reddit shows up in Google searches all the time, which can only happen if Google uses reddit's content. So reddit telling Google "you can't use our content" doesn't work, and they need to say something like, "you can use our content for search results but you can't consume it as training data."

This is a pretty straightforward statement/request/demand, but one could imagine Google lawyers maliciously complying and throwing their hands up dramatically, claiming "well we use some amount of AI in our search results, so if we can't use your content for AI training then we can't risk using it for search results." Which would, I imagine, really, really hurt reddit (no Google results would be catastrophic I suspect).

So, perhaps the "low" 60M figure is just Google using their leverage.

Or not. As a random person on the Internet, I can say I'm probably not contributing anything meaningful here...

How quickly you forget that half of it is just "I also choose this guy's wife" and "the narwhal bacon's at midnight"

I'm personally curious whether Reddit actually has any ability to protect that database. I don't remember Reddit TOS, but usually those things give them license to use and copy the data, maybe even to sell it, but not actually the copyright on it. So if someone made a Reddit scraper and copied the comments, wouldn't only the actual commenter be able to sue?

$60M may be reflecting that, in that it's more a convenience fee to shield Google against individual Redditors going after them than something that Reddit itself could actually sue over.

Every thing you google is just going to direct you to a link to let me google that for you

This.

"Hey Google AI, could you help me find a way to do _____?"

"Why the hell would you want that? Are you stupid? There's like 15 better ways to accomplish what I think your peanut brain is trying to accomplish."

"... nevermind Google."

One thing that doesn't seem to get brought up is the AI porn angle. Gonewild is pretty big on reddit still. A lot of OnlyFans creators, and general perverts (respect). Reddit wants to commodify this content, so those people are selling the images of their bodies so AI can make porn of random strangers. Kinda fucked when you think about it.

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.

I also choose this man's wife.

They have a series of safeguards against that now. They've actually taken it in the extreme other direction now where it can't give you anything without injecting diversity in there somewhere.

Here's an example. This is what it produced when asking for an image of a German soldier in 1943.

They keep copies of posts because people who mass edited their posts saw them reverted or have people reply still as if they were not edited.

https://shreddit.com/ ?

All we can do is make something better, reddit will do their thing and we will do ours.