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Is this about that account called "nonaturalgas" or something? Anyway somehow that one always felt off . So good job.
Correction: it's name was naturalgasbad and he was also banned. Some other poster stated he posted several pro China articles a day.
No, they only posted twice that I'm aware of.
This one isn't about the quality of the links, the links themselves appear to be fine, it's just the sheer volume.
To give you some idea, I moderate some smaller communities and I personally feel like I'm dominating the conversation if I post more than 3 links in a day...
Roll over to World News and I see 19... 🙄
Naturalgas posts about 5-10 pro-China pieces a day.
Honestly I feel like Nekandro is just their alt account , the types of posts felt too similar.
They definitely do seem to push certain agendas based on the topics. I already keep an eye on him too, especially since he's on Lemmy.ml which is just Lemmygrad in disguise.
Naturalgasbad was the one I meant earlier. I saw he was banned yesterday, that's why I checked whether this was about him.
He was banned for an entirely different reason.
They told me they were banned because they kept citing the Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart and the mods here preferred the Media Bias Fact Check ratings.
Please don't assume their gender. This is basic etiquette.
Please don't assume their level of offence at being presumed to be a he. This is basic etiquette.
It's just a way for you to try to feel morally superior and direct the attention towards you
They told me what they preferred, but you are right that I assumed they would be offended. My bad.
They were banned because after they were banned for abusing the report feature, they continued arguing with me through a series of PMs when they were told to stop arguing with a mod, repeatedly.
The ban increased from 3 days for abusing reports, to 7 days for arguing, then 30 for not stopping, then finally a permaban.
They were warned and given every opportunity to stop.
They're telling me they were reporting articles which didn't match the community's policy on reliability according to MBFC credibility crating and that the moderator in question refused to respond constructively.
Edit: I don't have the DMs from either side, which might help tell the story lol
They were reporting sites like the Washington Post which is a newspaper of record with a high credibility rating.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
When the links they posted which were removed were from the South China Morning Post.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/
Basically they wanted to post Chinese propaganda and got butthurt that they weren't allowed to.
SCMP is considered pretty reliable by most Western media outlets. It's still used as a source for Reuters news wires and Associated Press articles. It's still banned in mainland China for being too "edgy" or whatever, and the Hong Kong government still bars them from many events for "security reasons." It's still used by the Canadian Armed Forces College in their news feed SOMNIA. It's used by Bloomberg, which many financial folks over on State Street use as a source to trade billions of dollars on.
Their op-eds are more, well, opinionated and editorialized than in the past, but anybody submitting op-eds to a news community needs to reconsider doing so in the first place. If you evaluated WaPo or the NYT solely off of their op-eds, you'd think you were reading a rag like the Daily Mail.
If Reuters, Associated Press, Bloomberg, and the Canadian Armed Forces rely on SCMP, what makes the moderators of this community think they know better?
Edit: FWIW, Reuters also uses WaPo as a source.
And don't you dare question them!
Because a) it was reported as a suspicious source and b) upon examination was found to be "Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing".
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/
That is not an issue other sites that we do allow have. The decision has been made. It's not up for debate.
When the links were removed, the user was not banned and simply told to choose better sources. They went on a rampage reporting posts from known reliable sources resulting in a 3 day ban from a separate mod for abusing the report feature.
All of this was explained to the banned user who kept arguing and arguing in PMs and was told to stop, which resulted in increasing their bans over and over as they persisted until they were finally permanently banned.
In the end, their behavior in PMs showed the banning was appropriate. You don't get anywhere arguing with mods.