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"If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, people will eventually come to believe it". What is an example of this happening today? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I'd rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are liberals. Republicans are too. Both of them are reactionary.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s only true if you use the international definition of “liberal”. In America, “liberal” means “left wing”. And we’re talking about American politics.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In America, “liberal” means “left wing”.

No it doesn't. Widespread ignorance does not change objective reality. This sort of thinking is Hyperliberalism. Just because most Americans are politically illiterate doesn't mean the definition is changed. 40% Americans also believe the entire universe is only 6000 years old.

If you ask an american political scientist to define "liberal" they will tell you the "international" definition. If you allow technical and scientific terms to be subjected to "language just evolves" you end up with a Tower of Babble type situation where different groups of people are unable to communicate with one another despite using the same language and society collapses.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you ignore the actual usage of words then you’re speaking your own language and talking only with your own in-group bubble.

This was not a conversation about the political science term “liberal”. It is about lies told to everyone. We’re obviously discussing common usage.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

We’re obviously discussing common usage.

Saying something is obvious doesn't make it true. The only noun you use in your first comment is "Democrats" so how is this not a discussion about politics? I am having a discussion about politics and I'm going to do my best to use political terminology in its established scientific meaning not a niche dialect that you believe is "common use."

The world is much bigger than the USA. Americans only make up 15% of the English speaking world. What you call "common use" is just "ignorant and wrong" to the rest of us.