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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-planning-new-mission-mexico-cartels-current-forme-rcna241167 not lazy if true. Mexico doesn't have a lot of experience in the matter, but many Latin countries do. Same playbook. It's lazy to think it would work the fiftyeleventeenth time.
Do you want to point out where I said the US might not try something? Did you read the part where I am explaining that people have some unresolved issues?
It is rather patronizing to have westerners tell others "thats not the problem you are having this is the real issue. You have no problems with the current admin just with the CIA".
Which is why I quoted you as saying it's lazy. The president of the US has himself stated what the objective is. It's not some hidden CIA plot.
And I didn't say they wouldn't try to do something, but I am calling out for dismissing the issues of people who live there and trivializing their grievances as just the CIA.
OK, but they've seen what the CIA does, and 70% support is not just not enough, but seemingly the reason why CIA would overthrow it. And I don't see how it would be lazy of them to not turn their country into a slave trade.
I think you should re-read what I said and read what others are also saying on the matter.
I did, and I see a lot more agreement with me, and the person you initially responded to, by upvotes and comments.
Moving the conversation to what the US wants and keeping it there is rather dismissive. What the US wants is irrelevant. There are real issues that have nothing with what the CIA may or may not want. Simply saying that the CIA is a destabilizing force is a way to dismiss constructive criticism of what Mexicans want out of their representatives.
Yes, what the USA and CIA want is irrelevant. Sheinbaum approval rating is nearing 80%. What Mexicans want out of their representatives is clear, and USA/CIA need to stay out for once.
It would be patronizing if we were actually telling them that.
Well the article and your comments dismissing much of the social tensions and just skipping to foreign interference does make the tone of your writing as telling them that
that's because the foreign influence is at the heart of almost all of the issues that mexico is facing rn.
the institutions would be so weak for american capitalism didn't force them to be and the cartles wouldn't be so powerful if the cia/atf did help them so much.
None of them have claimed such a thing. That’s just you putting words in their mouths and pretending to be their savior.