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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Malicious compliance writ large.

Also, the number of hurdles you have to clear for this tells volumes about where the site owner priorities lie.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Hence why the EU is now forcing an "easy way to decline". All compliant websites have a "reject all cookies" button now.

Which I learned on accident, because normally I have Ghostery installed, which just rejects all cookies automatically.

[–] matti@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure that was the law from day 1 and the only difference is they're starting to crack down on it now

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

~~There was some controversy around Ghostery. A number of years ago, I believe they were allowing anyone who paid them money to not be blocked. They have since reversed track, but I won't ever use their plugin again.~~

I was wrong. It was Adblock plus

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

That was Adblock Plus.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe they were allowing anyone who paid them money to not be blocked.

Hmmm... Must've been a long while ago. I've been using them for... 3? 4? years and never had any ads getting through.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

yeah, it would have to have been at least 7 years, probs more i would think. But they burnt that bridge for me.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Well, I firmly believe in redemption arcs. Also, the product is just really good right now.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Check the Wikipedia page on it.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah? Still not seeing a reason not to use it today. Do you have any specific criticisms?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Breach of trust and owned by a for profit company.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Breach of trust

By a different company. Owners changed in 2017.

owned by a for profit company

Which makes a privacy-oriented search engine. Seems like they have a pretty good track record.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they started using ghostery to show their own ads in 2018.

Their search engine was discontinued in 2020.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they started using ghostery to show their own ads in 2018.

And they stopped after it was criticised. Do you just not use any product that has ever been bad for any amount of time?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No need to get defensive. I do use bad products, but it's important to try to find the least bad and avoid rewarding bad actors.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No need to get defensive

Who's defensive...?

I do use bad products

Umm... Good for you! (?) Not sure why you decided to share that, though.

but it’s important to try to find the least bad and avoid rewarding bad actors.

I agree! How about rewarding a redemption arc, where a bad actor changes management and becomes a "good actor"? (that was the original question, btw)

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well that was a weird rhetorical question.

Redemption arcs are for people, not for companies. And even them, how would I know they've become a good actor? It's really hard to be sure that a software is not doing something bad. Trust in software should be really, really hard to acquire.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Redemption arcs are for people, not for companies

So, how are you browsing the Internet?

Can't use Chromium (Google), can't use Safari (Apple).

Can't use Mozilla after their "bad actor" behaviour with telemetry and Pocket integration (not to mention the fact that they're literally on Google's payroll). Can't use Servo (originally made by Mozilla), can't use Ladybird (main dev is a fascist).

Are you posting this through telepathic transmission, or are you just a hypocrite?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 1 points 3 days ago

No, as I said I do use some bad software but I try to find the least worst.