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[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So far I’ve heard nothing but contrarianism.

Projecting again. I was the one who started off by sharing information and you were the one who contradicted it.

Just so everyone reading this knows what your stance is, can you make that clear?

It is clear to anyone with the ability to click links and read the contents. It's only unclear to you since you opted not to do that.

[–] NAK@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You've linked a lot of other people's opinions, which is fine. A lot of stuff about how doctors aren't always right, diagnoses aren't always correct, and how antibiotics are prescribed in situations that aren't necessary, like viral infections, which agreed, all of that happens.

But the context you're avoiding is your original claim.

While antibiotic resistance gets all the attention, the damage being done to our host-native microbiomes is arguably as big a threat as climate change, as the damage compounds over generations, and once it's gone you can't get it back. (Apr 2019).

It is beyond ridiculous and what started this whole thing.

So, again, for everyone reading, my claim is that doctors should be the ones to make medical decisions. Antibiotics save lives, and to add one more, people who advocate for their disuse because humans make mistakes, should rightfully be called out.

And since you're such a fan of random website "sources".

https://jennymccarthybodycount.com/

Never forget anti vaxxers, and anti medicine people in general, are responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is beyond ridiculous and what started this whole thing.

It's not. A plethora of supporting citations were provided.

And yet again, you continue with your false equivalency of anti-vax and anti-antibiotic.

[–] NAK@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Buddy, I get it. You're campaigning against antibiotic overuse. That's true. Antibiotics are over prescribed. I've never said they weren't.

What you need to chill on is giving people medical advice. I took a look at your post history, and this is a topic you're clearly passionate about

But you are not a doctor. You are not even in the medical field. It looks like you're an IT nerd. Which is great. We need nerds

But you espousing your opinions can hurt people. There are countless examples of people rejecting medicine that works, for essentially folk cures that do not. People die. Children are one of the most vulnerable to this, and I have personal experience with kids suffering because of people like you, campaigning against western medicine, convincing impressionable morons that alternative medicine works.

You are not a doctor, medical researcher, or a scientist researching bacterial diseases. You are a person reading what other people write on the Internet, and fixating on the gut biome above all other things is simply the wrong way to look at this.

Antibiotics save lives.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What you need to chill on is giving people medical advice.

you espousing your opinions can hurt people.

You are not a doctor, medical researcher, or a scientist researching bacterial diseases.

Projecting again. Also some random bold and baseless claims.

I have personal experience with people suffering because of people like you.

[–] NAK@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I checked again, and you're fighting this fight with a lot of people.

Why? What's your personal experience?

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My personal experience is irrelevant. I'm fighting with many people because many people are making harmful, false statements.

[–] NAK@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You can't even say antibiotics save lives.

Of course your personal experience is what we're talking about.