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unironically, just leave the US. plenty of countries/international research orgs are pouching all sorts of US-intelligencia right now.
This is not entirely true and blown away out of proportion by the writers of all the articles you're seeing. For example that big one that got a bunch of attention in France was only for 15 applicants. Also outside of a few exceptions, most STEM workers lack the resources to pick up and leave where they are at.
Counter arguement: you need to do your own research/planning/applications and so on. There won't always be an easy "all inclusive" path. But opportunities are there for those who are looking for them.
That being said, it would massively help to speak at least one other language fluently.
You're also correct that it's not easy from a resource perspective. But if people from much poorer countries can make it work, than so can people in the US.
This person is unfortunately correct. One of the most educated and skilled employees within my group at NOAA was rejected from a job in France. Apparently, the board in charge of that scientific organization rejected her because they didn't want to hire an American :/
yeah that stuff is about grabbing PhD's with labs that have or could possibly win nobels and such or just is doing big things in technology. Bad for the us but not useful for people generally working in stem.
You say this like it is easy/simple
Depends on what stage of life you're at.
It isn't simple at any stage.
I left and got two Sr SWE positions within 3 months. It’s like the 90’s down here
Where did you land? How much paperwork was involved in the transition?
Dual citizen with Australia, sorry. Though it is fairly light paperwork for Americans who are in tech - as in the U.S., the best chances are to get in stateside with a big company that has an Aussie HQ (Atlassian, Xero, Canva, FAANG, etc.) and then transfer
That explains it being like the 90s. That's Australia in general. New Zealand is more like the 70s.
Ah, I see what you mean now. Thanks. I’m trying to get my employer to allow me to relocate to the UK as they have an office there (putting aside Brexit and all the stupid decisions of late they have been making). It’s an uphill battle where at any point someone could veto the decision because they don’t want to have to deal with the headache. I need a bigger company that is willing to go the distance with the legal hoops. That’s usually a massive company like the ones you mention as opposed to a smaller companies that I tend to work for.
Obviously you should try to consider all options, but the amount that this is happening is way exaggerated.
Europe in particularly is diverting a lot of funding away from public sector to defense spending due to geopolitical anxieties.
International organisations aren't safe either, because they rely on funding from the developed countries who are all cutting funding, i.e. US, Europe, etc.