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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No they can't, they never could, and it's way way overdue for EU to finally wake up to the reality that all US owned cloud services are factually illegal for any European (EU) authority to use, from kindergartens to courts and everything in between.
It is also illegal for any private company operating in EU to hold any user/customer/personnel data on servers owned by American companies.

I've been saying this for more than 8 years now! Because this became apparent already under Obama, that the US government can demand, any data in any country held by any American company, to be handed over. Furthermore they can do this in secret under anti terror laws. And the companies affected are not allowed to mention anything to anybody, under regulation of steep penalties.

This was what Obama claimed was a balanced approach!
And the Republicans are worse!
And now it is very apparent that the checks and balances don't even work. The current American administration will do whatever they want, and worry about legality later. And threaten any opposition with secrecy under national security and anti terror laws.
Keep way way away from any American form of server/digital service and especially cloud services.
And also keep away from American telemetry. Which all ought to be illegal in EU.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 1 week ago

That's the story of humanity. It's always alarmist BS until some higher up gets personally burned and it's suddenly red alert.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What did you think the point of the "cloud" was?

It wasn't to make computing better.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the point is to make money.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was control. I guess money comes along with that.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No I'm pretty sure money was the original reason. AWS was the first big cloud player and it quickly became the most profitable part of Amazon.

Now Microsoft already had more money than they know how to use, they may indeed have been looking for control first and foremost. But the idea of cloud in general was about exploiting economies of scale to make more money

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Money has become secondary to control for a long time now.