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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Unless the company is going to allow me to run in company time or pay me my base pay plus overtime on top of the bonus that's a hard fuck no from me.

Company wants my time, they better damn well pay for it.

ETA. Thinking about it more, nah this whole running for your bonus is bullshit and I wouldn't do it even if they paid me overtime since running/exercising unless your job is directly related to it, running has nothing to do with work performance which the bonus is based on.

[–] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But they are paying you for it. Not for your time specifically but for your distance. Idk if you read the article but highest tier is 130% of your base salary.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

No they are not. A bonus is for your performance at work and when I run it's on my own damn time.

IDGAF how much of a bonus it is, 30% is all fine and dandy but again, if they aren't letting employees run on company time or paying employees for the time while they run during their off hours, then it's still a fuck no from me and it's complete bullshit to base a performance based bonus on you doing shit on your off time.

But hey, if you like having your company keeping tabs on how much you run vs how well you actually do at work for your bonus, I guess good for you, just not my cup of tea.

[–] CoralMask146@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if you get this bonus on top of your normal bonus? Would you walk then?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Again, no because a bonus is based on your performance at work, how you coworkers performed, how you all performed together at work and unless your work was directly related to you and your team running and even then you'd be running on company time.

A person running has fuck all to do with performance at work and thinking about it more especially more with the various people I have and do work with, I find myself thinking how this really is an assinine idea that is not only a overstep into community script territory but also could be a very shitty thing for employee morale.

[–] CoralMask146@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

A bonus can be anything. Doesn't necessarily have to be tied to your performance. It's called a discretionary bonus

My question assumes you get your normal performance-based bonus... But you get an additional bonus based on your walking

Maybe it's just me, but I find it mind-boggling that you wouldn't do it. You're getting paid to be healthy, essentially...

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I run anyway, may as well get paid for it

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean me too, but not for money

[–] camelCaseGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Now you'd technically be a professional runner.

[–] USAONE@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

DoD employees get paid to workout during the workday at least. It's nice.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In theory.

In practice, it has to be approved by your supervisor and is only for times when it won't interfere with progress on actual work.

So all they've gotta do is give you a lot of work to do...or just say no...and you don't get that anymore.

[–] USAONE@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's never been an issue for us. People go before they come in or at the end of the day. We're at a Air Force base so if be different at other installations.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so as a former Navy guy I have to ask, does golf count as "exercise" in the Air Force?

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

No because it's assumed you'll use the golfcart. Spinning in chairs counts if you do it long enough to work up a sweat.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that kind of makes sense. "Maintain battle readyness" and all that. I would expect everyone in the military, law enforcement, or emergency response should be paid also.

Firefighter isn't going to carry someone down a flight of stairs if they have that "Body By Dunkin'"

[–] USAONE@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Thus why I did it, just didn't like running.

Yeah I wouldn't even want to play video games if my bonus was contingent on it. Way to suck the joy out of something positive, corpos

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I would add: And bonuses are a BS excuse to overwork employees and making them work overtime for free. Having to go above and beyond simply to earn the end of year bonus caused me huge amounts of stress, anxiety, depression, and even affected my physical health.

You know how I solved that problem? By quitting and moving to a better company.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I mean being active anyway is a good thing for you And if the bonus is 30% of your monthly salary each month to do a bare minimum of movement that sounds like easy money

[–] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So just don’t take the bonus, then? Easy enough. Bonuses aren’t part of your normal wages. They’re given, not owed, not unless you do whatever they say you have to in order to earn them. So if you don’t feel like doing whatever it is that your company demands in order to receive the bonus, then just don’t do it and don’t get the money.

You should probably run miles each month anyway so maybe you won’t die in your sixties from heart disease.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

"Oh hey, thanks to you and your team for working all that overtime these past few months to make sure the project was done on-time and turning this potential loss of a client around.

However, we noticed that you and your team didn't run enough during these months so we're going to have to dock your bonus for the year but thanks for all of your hard work for the company."

But yeah, just don't take the bonus.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, what's wrong with you and your stupid wheelchair? If you want a bonus, you should get up out of that wheelchair and start running on your stumps!

[–] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait, is your argument here that people in wheelchairs are incapable of exercising? That’s pretty ableist, dude.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure they're incapable of running. You know, the thing they give bonuses for?