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[–] jkmooney@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Well, should a Liberal incite an insurrection against the United States, that precedent should be used against them.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tennessee State General Assembly: I saw a Democrat with a Biden T-shirt set fire to a trash can! It’s totally justified to disqualify Biden!

My State will sadly pull some stupid stunt like this for sure. I get your sentiment but for a lot of us red States our government will absolutely trip over themselves to demonstrate their “hold my beer” skills.

That’s not to say Trump shouldn’t be disqualified, but boy oh boy is it opening a box that looks like no one should open it. I really hope SCOTUS comes back and says something like “it went through three different courts and because of THAT reason we’re up holding it.” Just simply saying “well States should decide” will pretty much mean I’ll never get to vote.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Red states can, and likely will try something like that, but SCOTUS should reverse the decision if it violates the U.S. constitution. States have tried messing with who can and can't be on the ballot before, and SCOTUS used the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment saying you can't arbitrarily keep a person off the ballot. SCOTUS might do the same for Colorado and California since Trump has not been found guilty of anything involving an insurrection yet. But yeah, if SCOTUS goes full "state's rights," saying states can mess with elections however they want, the U.S. will likely become more like a confederacy of sovereign states. And I think states that currently have red governors or legislatures have more electoral votes and house seats than blue states, so we would have a perpetual Republican federal government.

[–] jkmooney@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it, so far, the courts aren't disputing that Trump incited an insurrection, they're disputing if the 14th Amendment applies to the office of the President.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Does the 2nd ammendment apply to my AK-47 even though it's not explicitly determined in the wording? Then the 14th should also apply to office of the president.

They want to eat their cake and have it, and the hypocrisy doesn't matter to them at all. They use laws, procedure and precident when it helps their case. They blatantly ignore it the rest of the time.