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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what should it be tied to?

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Making things better for the community according to your ability to do so.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, which is productivity and wealth since that means you are self reliant or can help those who are not

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not though because people exploit you for your labour. People like Bezos aren't multibillionares because they work 10000x harder than a minimum wage worker, they get that wealth by exploiting others. And people like him don't take the first few million and retire, they hoard all that wealth because people who are willing to exploit people to thay degree and make people piss in bottles aren't going to be people who give a shit about helping other people.

We could live in a society where you're free to work a little harder and be rewarded for it because you have to ability to do so and any extra cash you earnt could go to helping those less fortunate who aren't able to work as much as you do.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The more successful you are the less you're exploited. That's a piece that pisses me off how the left keeps new generations hobbled their entire lives. So yes the harder you're work means you are rewarded if you choose the right careers which is the point. I've met so many Lefty's who refuse to pick a good career. Like 35 year old workers in the service industry who choose to be there that are angry they're not granted more wages or benefits. I wish the left would adopt more of the attitude on the right which is just work hard.

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

But having a full time job means you're successful, doesn't it? Or do you believe there are classes of full time workers who don't deserve to make a living wage?

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that falls under the "productivity" umbrella, lol.

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

Under the current system "productivity" means making lots of money for your boss. If you work a job that's valuable to society like being a teacher you still don't get paid as much. Or if you're an artist or you aren't capable of working 40 hours a week you're seen as a less productive member of society.

Being a valued member of society shouldn't be based on working two full time jobs because if you can afford to pay all your bills and buy a nice car and house then that's proof of your success.