Edit: It is a joint open source initiative between Germany, France, Italy, & Netherlands to make Cybersecurity, AI, Cloud, & Social Media Network alternatives

Maybe we can finally get a Facebook open source alternative with mobile apps /s

Spotted this on Mastodon so I decided to inform you all. What you think?

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure Blink is a fork of WebKit which is a fork of KHTML. But that was 1000 years ago. The biggest contributors by leagues are Google and Apple. Those are US projects. Trying to say they are European is nuts.

LibreOffice is German though and while OpenOffice was from Oracle, it was based on StarOffice which was German. So, the EU can claim that one.

NextCloud is a solid example too.

And, of course, there is SUSE.

Igalia (Spain) brings Servo (web browser) and Chimera Linux too.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not 1000 years ago, KHTML is still used by Konqueror, last release 25.08.2 2025-10-09 (Linux only). But yes, it got very marginal, some more development by KDE would be desirable to be an real alternative.

https://apps.kde.org/konqueror/

....WebKit started as a fork of the KHTML and KJS libraries from KDE, and has since been further developed by KDE contributors (KWebKit), Apple, Google, Nokia, Bitstream, BlackBerry, Sony, Igalia, and others. WebKit supports macOS, Windows, Linux, and various other Unix-like operating systems. On April 3, 2013, Google announced that it had forked WebCore, a component of WebKit, to be used in future versions of Google Chrome under the name Blink.

Certainly Spain is pretty active in software developement (OpenSource and also proprietary), eg. Panda Security with the first cloud based AV which retrieved Malware definition in realtime from the cloud. Nowadays most other AV, even the Windows Defender, use this system.

https://www.f6s.com/companies/software/spain/co

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My point is that Apple dominates that list of developers (and them and Google before that). How much do you think BlackBerry is contributing these days?

Since we are talking history though, one of the original KHTML devs was Andreas Kling who went on to work on WebKit at Apple and who now leads the Ladybird browser project. He lives in Sweden so I guess Ladybird is European though the newly formed Ladybird Foundation is US based (I am sure to make it easier to raise money by offering US tax deductions).

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We'll see, at the moment in the US isn't a good country for devs or cientifics, less for foreigners. They even cut the money to the NASA, shutting down climate sats, investigation centers and universities, not even police and military get paid (only ICE). Better if he tried it in Canada, the US is currently the worst and most crappy country to immigrate for everyone.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Are you talking about Ladybird?

The US government is a mess but US companies still have all the money. Most Canadian companies have US revenues and will benefit from US deductions.

The first big Ladybird sponsor was Shopify. They are a Canadian company that recently moved their headquarters to the US.

Agree with your last sentence.