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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Champoloo@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net
 

Brave Software, the company behind the browser of the same name, was founded by Brendan Eich. He's best known as the creator of JavaScript from his days at Netscape Communications, and he was later the co-founder of Mozilla. He remained at Mozilla Foundation and its for-profit segment, Mozilla Corporation, well into the 2000s. In 2014, he was appointed as CEO of Mozilla Corporation, which immediately caused backlash from at least a few people inside Mozilla and many people outside the organization.

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Eich wrote a blog post defending himself in 2012, when the donation was initially discovered, where did not apologize and denied the donation made him a bigot:


Here's a bonus fun fact: one of those early investors was Founders Fund, which is operated by billionaire Peter Thiel. He's a regular campaign donor to far-right political candidates, and said in an essay that "I no longer think that freedom and democracy are compatible." He also keeps funding libertarian “seasteading” ships designed to function as independent cities in international waters (think BioShock), all of which have failed miserably.


Brave was also caught up in a privacy scandal in 2020, when it was revealed that the browser was adding affiliate codes to some URLs typed into the address bar. For example, typing in “binance.us” would add Brave’s affiliate link to the end, allowing Brave Software to collect revenue from signups or purchases. An official blog post called that “a mistake,” and the functionality was later turned off. That should have been enough to swear off Brave as a privacy-centric browser forever, considering the entire point of affiliate links is to collect data about the user and traffic source. For example, when you click an Amazon affiliate link in a web article, the publisher can see the exact products you purchase in the timeframe the tracking cookie remains active (which is currently 24 hours).

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[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

is there another browser with ad block that i can use on android?

[–] Champoloo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Firefox with ublock origin, firefox supports extensions on android. You can even watch youtube with sponsorblock.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS devs recommend against Firefox Android on security grounds. They of course have their own modified Chrome. Do you know of any decent chromium based options for privacy? All the projects I used to use died.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Vanadium with DNS level blockers (DNS over HTTPS) if you're on graphene os.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Already have that ha. At the level of my entire network for the latter

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I use Fennec, a fork of Firefox for Android inspired by Librewolf on desktop. Iceraven is a similar thing. The differences seem very minor to me. Fennec is on F-Droid, Iceraven you need to use Obtainium to download. Both of them support uBlock Origin.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Fennec is not a fork. It is just Mozilla Firefox built with the branding disabled (and potentially some other build-system flags depending on the distributor) so it can be distributed in places like F-Droid without trademark restrictions.

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is it not? I thought there were other proprietary bits & telemetry removed, like what LibreWolf does. Maybe I'm lost in the semantics of "fork" and "custom version"...