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hyprland isn't "suckless" at all. Even a normal person will go "wow this sucks" at the sight of the hyprland codebase and the way they do things.
Most of the "suckless" software has the benefit of depending on old, massive X11 swiss knife libs that haven't really changed in the last 30+ years and are available on most UNIX-like Systems, which makes compiling it from source trivial.
If X was still under active development then all the "suckless" software would only be "suckless" on OpenBSD, because those guys have their own fork of X11 that hasn't been touched since the end of the 2nd Century.
I mean the issue I take with suckless is that it still can suckmore. X11 as a toolkit library and as the base for a xorg server window manager impl is just treating X as a load bearing dependency.
But besides that, I think people took the wrong lesson from suckless and thought it just meant "less = more." So we get projects like hyprland that think they're superior because they have less "bloat" or whatever.
In a not too distant future, GNOME will be more suckless than DWM and the suckless folks dont actually care to learn why.