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Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's an important distinction to make because actual antisemitic people like neo nazis argue that Israel and the Jewish elites are controlling the US through money or blackmail, and even among many average westerners they think Israel is pressuring the US and buying politicians, which they do, but Israel is a US vassel and can only do what it does with the material support of the west. This framing obscures the driving role of Western governments and helps launder their reputation.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So is saying Epstein had close ties to isntrael consider anti-semitic now? How about talking about the entity being a safe place for pedophiles to hide?

There's a simple distinction to be made here between Zionism's close affiliation with white supremacists and Jewish people generally. Please don't knee-jerk into doing isntrael propaganda job for them of making all discussions of anti-zionism painted as anti-semitic nazi shit. That's exactly why the close affiliation exists. This is the same thing they use Zelensky to cover for the Banderites.

In both cases the US facilitates both for its own interests, but the Ukrainian political influence in the US is much lesser, hence the lower priority of that conflict from US.