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Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I (USA) bought a dog(Israel) specifically for fighting the neighbours' dog(all Muslims), I put it on a leash(literal money and weapons) the length of my block(the world) and now it's biting everyone(everyone). Somehow this means my dog now owns me.

[–] juniper@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Have you never seen somebody walk a dog that they couldn't control? The dog gets an idea in its head and pulls its owner who can't pull back the leash? Not saying your analogy doesn't hold... more like it's too accurate lol

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the dog can sometime nip/bark/bite back if really displeased (idk how else to comment on the ability of Israel to threaten the US with nukes if it fails to react positively enough, and the ability of Israel to act in the short term in ways that the US has to stop it from hurting themselves and the owner)

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dog however, will be abandoned or euthanized if it does that too often

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Sure, so it's more complex than either simplification. I agree. The limits are set by the overarching empire, but working within those limits, and even shifting those limits through shifting the context, are still possible by the vassal

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

The usa didnt really create israhell, helped massively yes, but it was more the UK that did it by allowing zionists settlers to start organizing in Palestine.