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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure. I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] terminatortwo@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, you can see it if you want, there’s MPL code and nightly builds. It’s the best shot at ending the browser monoculture and it’s progressing steadily!

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yup, the nightly builds are already getting pretty good. Obviously not ready for any serious use yet, but it's a great project.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 3 weeks ago

I should've been clearer: my misgiving is the claim of "embeddable". If embeddable means having to read the code to find out how instead reading documentation, tutorials, and examples, nah, it ain't embeddable. It's possibly embeddable.

It's like claiming NIXOS were user friendly, assembly being easy, or Arch Linux stable.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's being developed by igalia, which is top notch. I've tried it on Bazzite, the available builds require no installation. It's coming together very well.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago

How easy is it to embed though? Documentation, tutorial, examples, etc. Making it as embeddable as Gecko is a losing strategy. Making it as embeddable as Blink and WebKit though, then we can talk about embeddable.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I tried the apk and It even runs webgl, you can already see it imo

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean embedding into applications. There was no documentation or guide for embedding it into anything last I checked and this is just a demo browser that's being released. If embedding it into applications is as hard as Gecko, it will have no chance against Blink and WebKit.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you’d like to embed Servo in your own application, consider using tauri-runtime-verso, a custom Tauri runtime, or servo-gtk, a GTK4-based web browser widget.

https://book.servo.org/

[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

“Tauri” you say?

Kree jaffa, chapa-ai!

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So, in order to embed Servo you need:

  • to use Tauri: sure, pull in a huge other project to be able to use our project 🫰
  • use GTK: again, pull in a bunch of unrelated dependencies to be able to embed our project

I can't give servo some graphical surface (OpenGL, Vulkan, Metal, DX, whatever), call a function to open a webpage and see it draw on that surface. There's no lib with documentation on crates.io, no bindings for other languages, and non of the things I mentioned in my previous comment.

It feels like this is built just like Gecko was for Firefox: single consumer with the consumer being the "reference implementation".

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is what I said

There was no documentation or guide for embedding it into

This is what you posted

If you’d like to embed Servo in your own application, consider using tauri-runtime-verso, a custom Tauri runtime, or servo-gtk, a GTK4-based web browser widget.

Great documentation and exceptional guide! 👏 What next, are you going to tell me that the code is the documentation? "Just read the code"?

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I also provided a link, which will lead you to the documentation.