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German exports to China fall 13.5%, imports rise 8.3%

Exports to China fell even more sharply than those to the United States, dropping 13.5% year-on-year to 54.7 billion euros in the first eight months of 2025.

By contrast, imports from China rose 8.3% to 108.8 billion euros.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Germany be like:

Fascists to my left!

Red fascists to the right!

Neither US or China are good options. Germany should have ideally focused trade on anyone but the two.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Germany itself is facist

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

to what extend is china fascist in your opinion?

china doesn't have centralized power, china is democratic on a grassroots level, china doesn't screw it's workers for max profit.

i fail to understand this label, as china is not following the core tenets of fascism

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's something like 450 Chinese billionaires. That alone should tell you how naive your notion of them not screwing workers for max profit is. The exploitation of labor is alive and well in China.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yet china has 10x less billionaires per capita than the US. china is also not known for putting billionaires in the spotlight or letting them dictate policy. also: in the context of how china developed through the 20th century until today it´s more than impressive how china advanced the material conditions of regular workers. i am not denying that exploitation of labour happens to an extend, but it is neither encouraged nor as rampant as in western countries. china claims to be socialist "with chinese character" but they are capitalist after all, this includes all the failings of the system. but with extra guardrails.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So what? China curtail civil liberty. They're communist in name only. China is a red fascist. Deal with it.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

define "fascism" and tell ne how this term applies to china.

you won't convince me if we have two completely differing definitions of that term

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By democratic on a grassroots level you mean that if you try democracy, you can see the roots of the gras growing above your grave?

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

ok... but do you have more substantial arguments with less polemics?