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[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The article is very confusingly written. Maybe AI? It's conflating "cloud" hosting (AWS, etc) with renting hosting infrastructure (which includes the cloud, but also things we don't refer to as "cloud", like dedicated servers, VPS services, and shared hosting).

This paragraph makes it sound like Amazon were the first company to allow renting their servers:

As companies such as Amazon matured in their own ability to offer what’s known as “software as a service” over the web, they started to offer others the ability to rent their virtual servers for a cost as well.

but Linux-based virtual servers have been a thing for 20+ years or so, first with Linux-VServer then with OpenVZ. Shared servers in general date back to the mainframes of the 60s and 70s.

Similarly, this paragraph makes it sound like the only two choices are either to use "the cloud" or to run your own data center:

Cloud computing enables a pay-as-you-go model similar to a utility bill, rather than the huge upfront investment required to purchase, operate and manage your own data centre.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

but Linux-based virtual servers have been a thing for 20+ years or so, first with Linux-VServer then with OpenVZ. Shared servers in general date back to the mainframes of the 60s and 70s.

yeah, you do know journalists sometime do simplify things, either because the author itself created simplified version of reality in their head, or they understand the complexity, but decided to simplify it to get the point across to the reader, right?

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They should say at least one thing that's unique to the cloud, though.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there is no cloud, it is always someone else's computer. the only difference is "it is successful buzzword"

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"cloud" still mostly means services like AWS and Google Cloud. People don't refer to Hetzner dedicated servers as "cloud" for example.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's definitely dependent on the company. Every company I've worked for that has their own data centers refers to any service outside their direct hardware control as cloud infra. Co-lo is the only shared hosting model I've never seen considered cloud.

The widespread conflation of IaaS/PaaS with cloud is due to AWS/ GCP/ Azure marketing. VPSes used to be considered cloud, prior to IaaS and PaaS existing, because cloud was anything that was not on-prem.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hence the buzzword part of my comment

[–] termus@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It also refers to a computer scientist that explains the outage yet never references this scientist at all.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Clarissa, clearly.

sits back down in rocking chair

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The article is written by the computer scientist.

[–] termus@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago

Ah yeah, that makes sense. 😄