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[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It was more of an Americanization of Ukraine, really.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Nah, the open unrepentant Nazism is an import from Ukraine

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

USA and Canada systematically nurtured fascists in Ukraine, orchestrated a coup to put them into power and run pro-fascist propaganda campaigns. American Nazism is homegrown and exported to other countries.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, and this is the boomerang coming back around. We made Ukraine open Nazis, now Ukraine is making us open Nazis as blowback. America has never been openly Nazi in the way that Ukraine currently is, it's always done with a Liberal veneer or behind the scenes. That's changing.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Really, it is closet Nazis in America made Ukraine open Nazis and ran pro-Nazi propaganda, so they can come out as open Nazis. It hardly counts as blowback, when every step was being done by Americans.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll tell you this, all my lib neighbors used to have pride flags and now they have Ukrainian trident flags. It wasn't American chuds who did this to them.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

Moderate wing of fascism and so on.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

okay but have you considered the following:

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago

this remind me of the word "papist" that US protestants use, thats such a funny insult to make to refer to catholics lol

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a reason they had to import the fucking nazis. If Canada and the US were already as or more fascist than Ukraine they wouldn't bother importing the people in to do the nazi shit.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

USA and Canada are the main Nazi bases. They harbor Nazis and help them spread over the world. In Ukraine Canadian Ukrainian nationalists had run decades-long campaign to whitewash Bandera and Shukhevich post-1991. Ukraine was deliberately made fascist by them, it wasn't some oopsie.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The world is not a homogenous plane with zero ruptures, it's filled with pockets of forces and one of those is neo-nazism, which the western governments have to actively create, stoke, and transport across the world. You're flattening the reality to make it simpler because this understanding is too complex for you and other Deprogram-style leftoids.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago

Unrepentant nazism is just the natural evolution of Unrepentant kukluxkanism