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The KPD was being murdered by the Nazis with the aid of the SPD. The KPD was correct, liberals will side with fascists over leftists when push comes to shove.
I feel like we had this conversation before at some point lol... I will summarize my point of view on it and then probably dip from it:
And then much later:
That is my summary. I realize you may have a different one but I don't think I really want to get in an extended argument about it today. But yes, Germany in the 30s is a relevant example on this topic, I absolutely think.
(Oh, also, the KPD was being murdered by the Nazis with the aid of Stalin. The KPD was coordinating with Stalin, and he was selling them out because of course he was. I have absolutely no idea where you got this idea that the SPD was involved in what Hitler was doing to his opposition.)
No, this is ridiculous. The KPD correctly warned of the rising threat of fascism, and correctly pointed out the need for revolution. The SPD pushed for Hindenburg, got him elected over Thallman, then Hindenburg gave the seat to Hitler. The SPD murdered KPD members, such as in the "bloody may" incident. Stalin did not "sell out" KPD members and work with Hitler, the negotiations to get Thallman out of prison fell through.
https://www.wsws.org/en/special/library/foundations-ger/10.html
I won't say I agree with 100% of the analysis on that page but a lot of that last part of analysis seems completely spot-on to me. And, of course, how Trotsky predicted is exactly how it played out.
Trotsky was a wrecker through and through in his later years. Any claims of wanting "unity" are laughable when contrasted with his own anti-unity wrecker behavior within the soviet union. Trotksy himself was no "Marxist genius," he believed the proletariat should attack the peasantry and hoped the developed countries would rebel and save the Russian proletariat from backlash. Social Democracy had sided with the fascists against the communists, and insodoing ruined Germany.
What Trotksy wanted happened: The SPD got what they wanted, and Hindenburg gave the seat to Hitler. Trotksy was wrong, just like the SPD was.
"The party cannot fail, it can only be failed."
Anyway, like I said I don't plan to have an extensive debate. I'll leave you with this:
https://jacobin.com/2021/08/hitler-stalin-pact-nazis-communist-deportation-soviet
Edit: Fun fact, I've actually visited Trotsky's house in exile in Mexico City.
The Bolsheviks made several mistakes, but exiling Trotsky was not one of them.