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I'm looking to install Linux on our home laptop and see if I can convince my wife to migrate off Windows. Since I'm not sure there won't be times we need or want to boot back into Windows, I want to set it up so we can dual boot. The laptop only has a spot for one drive however so I can't use two drives and chose them with the bios. I know in the past Windows has been problematic with dual boot setups on a single drive, corrupting the boot drive following updates and what-not. I'd really like to avoid that if possible.

Any suggestions on how best to go about it, or something I should at least avoid because it's known to be problematic?

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you got one of them new fancy usb drives with proper speeds (f.e Kingston Datatraveler Max) then maybe try installing your favourite distro on it and boot from that?

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I second this, using a live environment to try it out is the way to go, windows still has a multitude of issues with dual booting that make it impossible to recommend. As an aside, OP what are the programs that you are wary about, buy in large everything works on Linux, you just either need to use the oss alternative or in some very specific cases your Sol

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

App-wise, I know my wife is going to want to use Microsoft Word and Excel, and we always use this laptop for our taxes, so TurboTax. I have a feeling running from a USB drive will be way too slow.

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know my wife is going to want to use Microsoft Word and Excel

Has your wife tried out the libreoffice suite or the online version of office? If not I would highly recommend the former then the later if it doesn't work out for you, as running ms office on Linux is officially impossible and unofficially a pain in the ass.

and we always use this laptop for our taxes, so TurboTax

If it must be turbotax, a VM or wine will be the move, if it doesn't need to be, there is opentaxsolver, although I have no experience with any of these software suites.

I have a feeling running from a USB drive will be way too slow.

In general it should more than suffice, the only thing is load times will be high, but not unbereably so.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks. I forget about the online version of MS. That might be our fallback plan if we get desperate.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Turbotax can be used from a web browser, you don't need to install a program. There's also FreeTaxUSA, and numerous other sites that do the same thing.

LibreOffice is very feature-complete compared to MS Office.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Kingston Datatraveler Max will be more than fast enough
https://ssd-tester.com/kingston_datatraveler_max_usb-a_256gb.html
https://www.kingston.com/en/usb-flash-drives/datatraveler-max

If you're unwilling to change software suites thst is gonna be the bigger problem.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Being that this laptop is probably 15 years old, I'm doubt the USB slots are going to benefit much from those high speed drives. They are USB3 at least.

Software-suite wise, I suspect that won't be a problem long-term but I know we'll have to look closely at least a few of our more complex documents - such as resumes - to make sure they can be converted properly. My wife is a spreadsheet maniac too, though I expect most won't take special handling. Being able to boot back to Windows in a pinch will be beneficial though.

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Being able to boot back to Windows in a pinch will be beneficial though.

The annoying thing is that this is not possible without sacrificing system stability, there are about half a dozen known issues with windows update removing Linux bootloaders in a dual boot system, and it has personally bricked my system twice even with booting from a separate drive. I would highly recommend making your fallback a VM like qemu or a more well integrated one like winboat, it is just not worth the risk to dual boot.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's definitely my fear. Tychosmoose's experience gives me hope but maybe that's just setting me up for disappointment. I guess I at least wanna make sure I keep my system backed up before updating Windows and maybe disabling auto updates.

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I do not believe you can disable auto update anymore on windows.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Half the speed of USB 3.2 Gen2 is still plenty fast. :)

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Being that this laptop is probably 15 years old

Core2Duo? Or 1st-gen i3/i5/i7? Either way, that will still run Linux just fine.

Being able to boot back to Windows in a pinch will be beneficial though.

That's where a VM will shine.

With dual booting, you have to reboot the whole system into the other OS. With a VM, you can just run Windows inside that in the background, and open it right back up if needed.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'll definitely have to try that. What VM software would you recommend? My experience with VMs is very limited and only on Windows, not Linux.

The CPU is an Intel 47xx... can't recall exact model. It's a decent machine with 12GB of memory so should handle a VM ok even.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i7-4770 or i7-4790? Those Haswell-based CPUs are legendary, even in 2025. I built an i7-4790K based gaming rig probably 10 years ago or so, it was an absolute monster.

For VMs on Linux, I would recommend something called "Virtual Machine Manager". It's in nearly every distro's software repository, and uses qemu (common virtualization tool in Linux servers all over the world) for the backend. But whatever you do, stay away from "VirtualBox".

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's an i7-4700MQ. Definitely still a decent CPU and with 12GB of ram more than adequate. Not sure I'll get touchscreen support with Linux, but I usually forget it's a touchscreen anyway.

Thanks for the VM tip. I used VirtualBox in the past but not heard anything good about it lately.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Not sure I’ll get touchscreen support with Linux, but I usually forget it’s a touchscreen anyway.

Depends what laptop it is, you might actually get native touchscreen support. Linux has come a long way, it supports quite a lot these days.

Thanks for the VM tip. I used VirtualBox in the past but not heard anything good about it lately.

Yeah, unfortunately VirtualBox is owned by Oracle, and Oracle is an objectively horrible company.