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Trying to ask about something strange that happened at No Kings. Just my luck the thread got locked before I could respond to the comment assuring me I was just being paranoid. Darn. (sh.itjust.works)
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Security was there in yellow vests with radios. Allegedly they were supposed to be local activists who were trained by Indivisible in safety and de-escalation, but they definitely looked more like either off duty cops or feds.

They were dispersed through the crowd, and at one point they got together in a huddle to discuss some stuff near the group I was with. We kind of eavesdropped bc they seemed so sheisty, and ended up overhearing them saying they had put detail on somebody in the crowd who seemed suspicious to them.

I’m not sure they were actually with any security Indivisible had trained, but maybe? They also could have been feds who just got yellow vests and were impersonating activist security, but they definitely weren’t "local activists." I would be curious to know what kind of security people in blue states saw at their rallies/marches yesterday?

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[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

these people just didn't learn anything from already shooting a civilian to death, did they? the cop genes are inseparable from liberal organizers.

edit: wanted to add context for the people who aren't aware https://www.ksl.com/article/51391962/its-frustrating-arturo-gamboas-mother-on-waiting-for-charging-decision-in-no-kings-shooting

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure that the organizers actually provided the security. I think just as easily the state could have intervened and said if you want to have a rally this is who you're going to have to use as security.

The whole thing was so different this time. Like it seemed like so many additional people and groups were involved, but it was way less organic.

Last time we just marched through the quarter. It was kinda disorganized, but it was really simple and it was great.

This time they had everyone just meet on a big green lawn and stand in one place together in a pretty random spot in the city. They had a local musician play literally one song at the beginning, and then a bunch random people gave speeches about some things, but honestly the speaker set up was so bad you couldn't hear anything being said even right up on the stage.

Since it was on a Greenway that runs through the city, I thought we would be still be marching but we just all stood around not really able to hear anything being said on the tiny stage. It was odd. Not sure if it was just a too many cooks kind of situation, or that was all the city would allow, but it felt way more contained and less authentic. That's kind of how a lot of things in this city have been feeling over the last year. More uniform, less freedom of expression, less of what makes the city a great place to be. Kind of like it's being slowly invaded by an outside force that wants to turn it into something bland and docile.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

I'm not sure that the organizers actually provided the security. I think just as easily the state could have intervened and said if you want to have a rally this is who you're going to have to use as security.

this is the reason why anti-authoritarians don't ask for permits. not registering an official head of the movement means that you don't have to become legible to the state. it's also a form of harm reduction because the state always expects the problem to go away if the leader is arrested, but in anarchist circles a new head of the hydra just pops out to replace it