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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

That's all.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

I hate this argument because you're just two different versions of national supremacists.

On one side, you have the red magas that believe american supremacy can be re-achieved by kicking out everyone that isn't white and being mask off in its exploitation of the world.

On the other side you have the blue magas that believe american supremacy can be re-achieved by being as mask-on as possible about freedom and all the usual liberal bullshit that america spews but doesn't actually practice. This lot are just liars, using ideals and moralism as a mask for the exploitation reaped upon the world.

Both are dogshit, both are nationalists, both are motivated by american supremacy, and when both are gone the world will be a far brighter place.