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Even the polls now say that people on one side of the political spectrum endorse political violence to make sure their goals are met (www.msn.com)

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[–] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is apologist rhetoric, and since you are the OP, it is telling that you found this crap worth posting to start with.

You are not persuaded yet huh? And think Rogan is middle of the tent? He might be an idiot but he is squarely right wing you know, unless you know utter shit about politics. And you are watering down who is a fascist and who is not? You know Kirk had lists with targeted academics whom his fan-base harassed? Threatening academics for being woke is an anti-intellectual fascist tactic.

It really doesn't matter how you dress your world and gloss over reality, but there is a huge overlap between MAGA and authoritarian regimes worldwide, especially the Nazi party. People who don't see that it is mainly because they have zero idea about what the Nazi party was, except for "the absolute evil", and then pearl-clutch and say "they call me a nazi for being a militarist racist transphobe and because I believe in nationalism and traditional family values". Well, yeah? That was what a fucking nazi was, you pitiful ignoramus. What you nowadays call a "centrist".

Questioning whether "it is formally fascist" regarding the christian nationalist and organized racist forces behind this systematic attack on check and balances of the executive branch is simply SEALIONING.

It is a historical fact that America has not only undergone an autocratic power grap, that was deliberately engineered and outlined in Project 2025, but that it is already half-way implemented.
It is also a fact that rounding up undesirables to prison camps as well as the persecution and scapegoating of trans people closely parallel the early stages of the Jewish Holocaust and the enslavement of a large part of the European population in different types of camps.
It is a fact that Trump wants to destroy the separation of government functions, and uses the military against his own population to drown dissidence.

Your own fucking intelligence service says so. What you are doing is really actionable, because if you are not simply a useful idiot, you are an active operative. As an added bonus, he poses with established nazi apologists among young Republicans. And you are STILL MOVING THE GOALPOSTS ABOUT WHAT A FASCIST IS THEORETICALLY?

If you don't see that already, there really isn't reason to waste time on you personally or any other regime apologist. You are the type of person who will tell us we are overreacting until there are actual gas chambers, and then claim it never happened. The more your side pushes in the direction of barbarism and inhumanity, the sooner this will be solved by the fourth box. Humanity has rejected your ideas with deadly force, and it will again. Case is closed.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is apologist rhetoric, and since you are the OP, it is telling that you found this crap worth posting to start with.

No, it's just me asking where the boundaries are. As someone trying to understand the issue, is this not a good thing to ask?

You are not persuaded yet huh?

Of what? Most people who put me on the spectrum would say I'm left-winged.

And think Rogan is middle of the tent? He might be an idiot but he is squarely right wing you know

By "mid", I was using the slang term that means someone who is nowhere near as severe as the people on the same boat. I wasn't saying he wasn't "right winged".

You know Kirk had lists with targeted academics whom his fan-base harassed?

No, I didn't know that. Would like to read more. That's immediately alarming.

People who don’t see that it is mainly because they have zero idea about what the Nazi party was, except for “the absolute evil”, and then pearl-clutch and say “they call me a nazi for being a militarist racist transphobe and because I believe in nationalism and traditional family values”. Well, yeah? That was what a fucking nazi was, you pitiful ignoramus. What you nowadays call a “centrist”.

I'm not sure why you think I'm denying this. I just prefer to address things deconstructively. It doesn't mean they're not what they are. It's not a matter of someone being a "pitiful ignoramus".

Questioning whether “it is formally fascist” regarding the christian nationalist and organized racist forces behind this systematic attack on check and balances of the executive branch is simply SEALIONING.

As I said, I don't take away from what I know they are. They are still what they are. It's not me asking for proof of anything they've done, if you think it's sealioning. Have you ever thought of how cultural it is to use the more indirect means of addressing someone?

Your own fucking intelligence service says so. What you are doing is really actionable, because if you are not simply a useful idiot, you are an active operative. As an added bonus, he poses with established nazi apologists among young Republicans. And you are STILL MOVING THE GOALPOSTS ABOUT WHAT A FASCIST IS THEORETICALLY?

I condemn him on those points. Out of habit, I just simply don't use the same words you use. I don't know why that's such a big deal. Also, it's bold of you to assume this relates to my intelligence service (or even country).

there really isn’t reason to waste time on you personally or any other regime apologist.

I don't support the regime. Never did I say Trump wasn't a fascist.

You are the type of person who will tell us we are overreacting until there are actual gas chambers, and then claim it never happened.

Or... maybe I just use different words. That's a huge jump to conclusions.

[–] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I won't respond to any of your shit. I don't block you just to keep tabs on you. kbye

[–] Voidist@midwest.social -1 points 3 days ago

Was anyone saying you had to?