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AI-screened eye pics diagnose childhood autism with 100% accuracy::undefined

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 150 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Bull.Shit.

Define the criteria, have it peer reviewed and diagnosed, or else we will ALL be diagnosed with Autism soon enough.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago

For real.

It looks like the actual number of candidates were 958 and only 15% of that number were reserved for testing, the rest were used in AI training data. So in reality only 144 people were tested with the AI and there's no information from the article on how many people were formally diagnosed of this subset.

[–] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The article seems to be published in JAMA network open, and as far as I can tell that publication is peer reviewed?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, read it. No other confirmation.

[–] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it has been peer reviewed? And the criteria have been defined?

[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At the bottom of the article, the paper has been published in a peer reviewed journal.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2812964

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You can't just believe something because it's been peer-reviewed. It is an absolutely minimal requirement for credibility these days but the system does not work well at all.

In this case, the authors acknowledge the need for more studies to establish how generalisable their findings are. It's the first attempt at building a tool, it doesn't mean anything at all until the findings are reproduced by an independent group.

[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

totally agree, peer reviewing is the bare minimum, but it IS a step above any old article published on a random website. also would like to acknowledge the limitations of this particular study. fair criticism and is something the authors brought up in their paper too.

my reply was in response to the original commenter mentioning that there was no link to the study at all.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Totally agree, like for those vaccins. It's not because they are published they are safe ! /s.

[–] darelik@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sidebar: this talk of papers reminded me of writing one when hungry

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Isn't it a part of what someone printed on their neighbor's wifi printer ?

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

They do point to where the model was making its decision based off of, which was the optical disc, which they go over in the discussion with multiple previous studies showing biological differences between ASD and TD development.

You know, in the peer reviewed paper linked at the bottom of OP's article on it.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)