LMArena lets users pick between different model's outputs to show user preferences, and it's clear the users prefer China ๐จ๐ณ
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2025
76 points (98.7% liked)
technology
24046 readers
170 users here now
On the road to fully automated luxury gay space communism.
Spreading Linux propaganda since 2020
- Ways to run Microsoft/Adobe and more on Linux
- The Ultimate FOSS Guide For Android
- Great libre software on Windows
- Hey you, the lib still using Chrome. Read this post!
Rules:
- 1. Obviously abide by the sitewide code of conduct. Bigotry will be met with an immediate ban
- 2. This community is about technology. Offtopic is permitted as long as it is kept in the comment sections
- 3. Although this is not /c/libre, FOSS related posting is tolerated, and even welcome in the case of effort posts
- 4. We believe technology should be liberating. As such, avoid promoting proprietary and/or bourgeois technology
- 5. Explanatory posts to correct the potential mistakes a comrade made in a post of their own are allowed, as long as they remain respectful
- 6. No crypto (Bitcoin, NFT, etc.) speculation, unless it is purely informative and not too cringe
- 7. Absolutely no tech bro shit. If you have a good opinion of Silicon Valley billionaires please manifest yourself so we can ban you.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This seems more reflective of the US companies going closed source - look at the current text rankings, for example:
Not really going closed, google has had a mix release for a while. Openai recently released their first open model since gpt2 (2019). Meta and Nvidia still release their stuff open source afaik. Anthropic has never and probably will never release any weights. I think the big difference is Meta going to shit and Deepseek, Alibaba and Z releasing good models lately
Point being that to the extent we have to care about this stuff, focusing on the free models paints a partial picture.
That and they need to recoop their investment money
Pretty much; they're just running the standard playbook of starting open source to engage the community and then putting up the paywall once they've made enough progress. It does raise the question of how much room the open models have to optimize while still maintaining adequate performance.