899
Controversial ‘ICE List’ features photos and names of 100 immigration agents
(english.elpais.com)
this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2025
899 points (98.6% liked)
News
32730 readers
2932 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It doesn't matter that they've been convinced. I have access to all the same media, and I haven't been convinced to join in with abusing people.
That's because I have good Critical Thinking Skills, and I use them, especially to guide my morality to follow what I know is right, and not just what my worst emotions tell me. If I start to feel bigoted towards someone, I have the self-awareness to recognize it, and direct my thinking in a better direction.
MAGAs, and other stupid people, just accept their bigoted feelings, and act on them. Good people will suppress those feelings, and substitute moral and ethical thinking instead, and train their brain to think that way. It's harder that just reacting to your emotions, but becoming a mature, positively-comtributing member of society takes effort.
So I don't accept excuses like they needed the money, or they were only following orders, etc. They knew what they were signing up for, and most, if not all, did it because they saw a chance to wield evil power over vulnerable innocent people.
They are evil people, and defending them is evil as well.
You dont have access to the same media they do, thats not how it works with technology these days. Honestly, all I see is you trying to convince yourself you are a good person. Thats fine and all, but doesn't help society much. Its a very selfish reaction to what's happening now to use it to highlight what a good person you think you are, and what bad people they must be.
You really woke up today and decided to to defend nazis. That's a choice.
Whatever makes you feel better my guy.
What kind of Super-Special media do they have access to that the rest of don't? Besides, that's kind of the point. They aren't taking part in normal society, they are living in an alternate reality dictated by the Conservative Propaganda Machine, where the most corrupt treasonous people on our nation's history dare to clutch their pearls and point fingers at others who are completely innocent. Most of us choose to live in the real world, and make personal, career, and political decisions based on objective truth, not based on our petty bigotry, jealousy, and greed.
And not once did I say I was a good person. Nobody knows my sins more than me.
What I said was that there are jobs that are too immortal, unethical, or just plain EVIL that I would never do. That doesn't mean I'm a good person, it just means that I actively, deliberately, enthusiastically choose to NOT be EVIL.
However, all that said, I AM a Good Person, a decent, empathetic, moral, ethical, friendly, caring person. EVERYBODY should be. It should be the default way to live your life, and is, in fact, what the Founding Fathers talked about in the Declaration of Independence when they wrote about "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
Nobody was more Woke than the Founding Fathers.
They have the same social media but different algorithms.
A fantastic example is with charlie kirk. Many on the right saw positive, hopeful, respectful messaging from him, often in a religious setting. Those on the left saw vulgar, argumentative, and disrespectful messaging from him.
So after his death, we have a huge gap between how each half of the country viewed him, because they saw different things on social media. The same happens with Trump to a degree.
So they dont literally have a different social media, but they dont see the same things you do. Even with these ICE raids, they are seeing clips of citizens harming officers or putting them in danger, rather than them peacefully protesting. You can find clips on both sides from Portland, as another example. One side sees peace, the other sees chaos.
You blame the algorithm, I blame their lack of Critical Thinking Skills.
Algorithms develop from your engagement history, so if it's feeding you bullshit, it's because you are accepting of bullshit. People should grow up, stop being intellectually lazy, and challenge their sources.
And people like you should stop giving them a pass for their Treason, corruption, racism, pedophilia, etc. They are evil criminals, and have not earned, nor deserve, understanding, empathy, or mercy from any decent, moral citizen. Stop defending evil.
People aren't created as fully formed adults who then pick their morals and values. If thats how it worked, I'd agree with you. Since its not how it works, we need to figure out how to produce change in a positive direction. I dont think that involves doxxing and endangering other citizens who have a job some may disagree with. Disagreeing with someone isn't the same as causing harm for someone, surely you must know that.