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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Ok but,

Cows don't require bees. The food that cows eat (wheat, grass, soy) either pollinates by wind or spreads by root. Soybean benefits, but doesn't rely on, insect pollination. Alfalfa is pollinated by bees, as are most forms of clover.

Cocoa trees are pollinated by midges, not bees. And the rest of the shake comes from the above mentioned cows.

Lettuce also self-pollinates, though again insects help. Commercially, they're not really used.

Tomatoes are commercially pollinated by shaking them, because commercial tomatoes are optimized for making food and are pretty shit at being plants.

Potatoes are basically the only major ingredient that is pollinated by bees. But that's basically never used by anyone growing potatoes, since potatoes also spread asexually by tubers.

Stuff in this pic that IS pollinated by bees: the sugar beets that are potentially in everything (edit: nope, that's wrong) but not the corn you can also use for sugar. Cucumber for the pickles. Some oil plants to fry in. Coconut or almond if you don't want cow milk. Sesame seeds on the bun.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cocoa trees are pollinated by midges

Misread that as midgets just then...

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The bees have no more pollen for you

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

That's just the Lollipop ~~Guild~~ Union.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sugar beet seeds are produced via wind pollination in dedicated very compact setups. They plant strips of male and female plants with controlled distances.
As far as I can tell no pollinators are involved anywhere in the sugar beet industry.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Huh I remembered wrong. Thanks for the correction

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This comment would make more sense if each of those individual things you explained were isolated and in a vacuum. But they're not. They are all intricately intertwined.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your comment would make more sense if we weren't talking about industrial monoculture crop production. Honeybees are certainly important in a broad sense (though not to any ecosystems in the US, they are not a native species after all), but they are not involved in the production of these ingredients, and the original image is wildly misleading (though obviously made with good intentions).

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Nothing on the OP is talking about honey bees. There are many species of bees. I'm a big fan of mason bees; they pollinate like 20 times more than a honeybee, iirc.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then just say the world has ended and remove the burger.