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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

That's all very vague. Be more explicit. Many argue many things.

What is the ideology you're hinting at? Communism? What is the body count of communism? Where do you think you've got that that narrative from?

To round out the picture, and because body count seems so decisive, we should include capitalism, right — as fascism, many argue, is a neccessary consequence of imperial capitalism protecting itself in crisis and it's our current economic ideology and therefore an ongoing, systematic phenomenon?

What's the body count of capitalism?

Many would argue we currently live by an ideology with a body count of double digit millions of excess deaths annually, through poverty & hunger, healthcare inequality, workplace deaths & diseases, environmental & climate deaths, structural violence, and of course war & imperial violence.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why would I account for capitalism when my whole point is i don't care what people's opinions are?

Im talking about Tankie ideology so communism yes. But again, my point is I don't care so to try to pit communism vs capitalism to gotcha me doesn't even make sense.

Communism has a massive body count yes.

This form of verbal maneuvering that you display is falling from grace.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, suddenly you don't care? The only thing, that doesn't make sense then, is you commenting at all. Curiously you do, tho — with vibes-based political commentary. If you're really so apathetic, may I suggest to you to stfu.

What I got from your form of verbal maneuvering (lol), tho, is that you are not only apathetic, but also ignorant.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Listen to yourself. Disingenuous, preachy, angry. I have no respect for people like you.