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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)

submitted 1 day ago by pegazz@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[+] morphballganon@mtgzone.com -43 points 18 hours ago (15 children)

There's this huge movement in online spaces lately to bash any and all positions and opinions by calling them transphobic.

Vote right? Transphobic. Vote left? Transphobic. Abstain from voting? Transphobic. Support a company? Transphobic. Boycott a company? Transphobic. Indifferent about a company? Transphobic.

The simplest explanation is a bunch of right-wingers are trying to make the term meaningless. Anyway, nowadays when I hear someone is transphobic, I make sure to wait for solid evidence before changing my opinions.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 32 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

I get your point with the rest but...

Vote right? Transphobic.

Yeah, it kinda is? That's a core plank of the MAGA platform; it's practically inseparable. Unless you're talking non-USA parties but then there's still a better chance than none it's a yes.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

People who vote for a particular party generally don't agree with 100% of that party's platform. Just because someone voted for a party that has transphobia-motivated policies doesn't mean they are transphobic. The correlation may be high, but it's far from 100%.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You're right, they are just performing hateful acts towards trans people, they may be doing it out of laziness or ignorance rather than actually hating trans people. As we all know, materially helping an anti trans cause doesn't mean you hate trans people in the same way materially helping terrorists doesn't make you a terrorist. Ex: our friends and allies in Saudi Arabia.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 hours ago

Voting isn't a hateful act. Any insinuation of that needs to stop.

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