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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)

submitted 1 day ago by pegazz@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You're right, they are just performing hateful acts towards trans people, they may be doing it out of laziness or ignorance rather than actually hating trans people. As we all know, materially helping an anti trans cause doesn't mean you hate trans people in the same way materially helping terrorists doesn't make you a terrorist. Ex: our friends and allies in Saudi Arabia.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Voting isn't a hateful act. Any insinuation of that needs to stop.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Voting can absolutely be a hateful act, I literally can't imagine what happens in your brain that makes you think otherwise. The entire US 2024 election was hate vs not-the-hate-guy. A vengeance fantasy for middle aged white men.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago

No, if you think that, your brain is twisted by whatever spin your preferred media choice puts on.

The 2024 election was more about people wanting to see change, and one candidate clearly offering it and the other clearly not. Look at Harris' polling timeline, she was doing well up until the beginning of October, so what happened? For example, she wouldn't change anything from Biden's first term, except having a Republican in the cabinet. Trump took that and ran with that, and I think that describes her support dropping around that time. People were unhappy with Biden's first term, and she wouldn't say anything bad about it. I didn't watch the 60 minutes interview, but I'm guessing that went similarly.

I think most thought Trump was mostly rhetoric except the couple things they cared about. I think most thought he was bluffing about tariffs (or thought they'd work differently), thought he'd actually bring prices down, etc, which explains his cratering support so far. The average voter is kinda dumb/naive, but I don't think they were largely voting on hate against immigrants, trans people, etc.