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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

All this because Hyprland......checks notes......seems to allow free speech on their discord?

Guys.........come on lol. Why do some people try to make absolutely everything political? not just political either, but radical levels of political extremism. Don't judge a company by the things random unaffiliated people say on their forums lol. Hell, even if they are affiliated - who cares? Eat some concrete.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's funny how the most loud free speech warriors have the most superficial, performative understanding of free speech.

People get beat up by security services in authoritian regimes for reporting on corruption, but for "FreedomAdvocate" here, free speech is about the right to use slurs on Discord.

There is almost an abstract beauty to this level of debasement and regressivness.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

That's a false dichotomy. Freedom of speech should not solely be for those you a priori agree with. That's how autocrats motivate their supression: it's always for the greater good, of which they're the arbiter.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Good thing the people here are not asking for the government to ban Omarchy/hyprland, but asking "normal people" to not associate with known assholes, which is a very normal thing to ask for. And defending your right to associate with assholes whitout being shamed about it makes you look very much like an asshole.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Your continue in the same style and doubling down on victim-hood polemics.

Of course free speech includes a variety of viewpoints.

I am pointing out that "FreedomAdvocate" has a comically preformative view on free speech. Rejecting people who use the slur "tranny" is not a free speech issue and shows that FA doesn't actually care or believe in free speech.

It's all theatrics to try and show how allegedly independent he is and how is an alleged free thinker.

Embarrassing really.

[–] iii@mander.xyz -5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I once ate a hamburger from burger king made by employee that said the n-word when he was 17! I'm a literal nazi!

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes a powerful and influential figure in the open source community using his platform to actively promote racist hate speech is literally identical to a 17 yo at burger king. Truly a brilliant analysis of the situation.

I agree with your last statement unironically.