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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Certainly a tough question. Use Lemmy, okay, but would you send financial contributions to said Tankie? I wouldn't, and I would judge someone that did. I don't think anyone can be expected to evaluate the moral virtues of the developer for every technology they use. That's a supply chain nightmare. But, given the small number of people we directly sponsor, maybe then it's appropriate to have some standards?

As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism. At the same time, I havn't completely stopped patronizing American companies, so I'm not living up to my own standard. I suspect everyone is a little hypocritical.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

It's literally impossible to use the internet (or even computers?) without patronizing American companies, at least indirectly.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism.

This is an absolutely insane position to take.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 hours ago

This is an absolutely ~~insane~~realistic position to take.

There, FTFY.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It's certainly not feasible for every company to leave America, but I wouldn't argue with a boycott of American goods and services on general - and I'm saying this as an American citizen who's not exactly thrilled about this mess, either.