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I mean, I’m as big a ML fans as you’ll find on Lemmy, but this is a slop machine to build some Altman hype.
A controllable, integrated version as a tool, with augmentations like VACE or SDXLs controlnet would be neat. Thats also great because it’s not so easy for 1 click zero effort automated spam, which is by far Sora's largest market as is.
…And guess what. We have that, it’s neat already, it’s open weights, it's improving, and it’s not so controversial/abused because there’s an actual tiny barrier of entry to using it, like Davinci Resolve vs instagram filters.
The less barriers to entry the better for something like this. Imagine all the people who have always wanted to make movies/tv shows but haven't had the ability to who could use these tools to make pilots/trailer to sell to studios, or even create full series/movies to self-publish.
Trying to put barriers and "controls" in front of it purely because you don't like that it can be used to make "slop" is dumb.
And that’s why Sora sucks, because it’s censored, closed weights, totally opaque, largely toolless, and peddled like spam.
Sora is the very beginning, just the first step.
Well the first step was into a fucking cow pie, so that doesn't bode well for the next one
Huh? The first step is basically immediate generation of video that looks real.
What on earth are you talking about?
First step is to make slop feeds full of bullshit.
That look incredible though. That's the point - now people can make incredible stylized or realistic videos with nothing more than a few words and a few seconds wait.
You're like someone complaining about a technology like raytracing because all you saw was some devs use it to do a few shadows and cut their framerate in half. You can't see the big picture. You can't see that with every medium there is "slop" - there are terrible writers writing books, it's not just all new york times best sellers. There is terrible music, not just grammy winners. AI video generation will have tonnes and tonnes of crap, but it will also have masterpieces.
Doubt.
You can make movies with e-waste tech these days. There is no barrier to entry.
People who don't have the drive to make things without AI well never produce anything of value with AI.
You've never been able to make and iterate as quickly with as high quality as you can using current video generation AI tools. That's fact.
What "e-waste tech" do you think you can make full scenes with realistic people and CGI with?
Smart phones record exceptionally high quality video. Free and open source CGI software can be run on older computers.
People who want to make stuff will find a way to do it.
Lazy people who want to feel special will generate AI slop.
And take years to learn how to use well, compared to literally seconds of using an AI video generation tool. Then there's the actual rendering and iteration, which can now be seconds versus hours/days.
People who want to make stuff will be able to make amazing stuff with ease with AI.
You AI haters are all so closed minded, only capable of thinking of the lowest common denominator. Who cares if people make AI "slop" when there will also be visionaries making mind blowing stuff with AI?
Heaven fucking forbid that a person dedicates themself to learning a perfecting a craft. Meanwhile, you sloppers are out here thinking you're gonna take over the entertainment industry with your, "Yo Sora, make me a movie that's like Pulp Fiction crossed with Fight Club with supernatural elements."
Because that's all that it's good for. Every year it's, "Oh this is going to be so much better in 6 months, bro. It'll be able to generate full movies by then, for sure, bro." And every year it does get better, but it's still complete and utter garbage. It's still slop.
And even if it's not slop, LLM tech is basically just a repackaged soulless slurry of existing media. Unless there is a fundamental breakthrough in AI tech, it will always be that. LLMs just work that way. It is a limitation of the technology.
If you can't see that, then you truly don't understand what this tech is.
So you think that things should always be difficult and extremely time consuming, taking years to learn, even though new tech comes out that means it doesn't have to be, just because.......why exactly?
The same people that dedicate themselves to learning and perfecting a craft can also use these tools and will be able to do amazing things with them - or they can continue not using them if they want.
Ok so again, narrow minded and short sighted. What people can do with this is do their usual movie making process - storyboarding, script writing, etc - but can then literally "film" the scene and chop and change it, iterating and fixing almost instantly. It doesn't just spit out an entire movie - at least yet! You can give it exact words to say, camera angles, filters, etc - it basically allows the would-be director to shoot scenes in real time at any time they want, from any location, regardless of the weather/time/location/etc.
Dude, the technology has been around for only a few years lol. In that time it has absolutely gotten so much better - Google's video generation is a mind blowing upgrade for example.
You don't understand how it works if this is what you think.