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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (5 children)

No workaround?

That is incorrect.

There are plenty of workarounds, here are a two:

  • Use an older installer, create a local account and update.
  • Install Windows 10 with a local account and upgrade.

I am all for bashing Windows, but please argue facts, not imaginations.

You can also download a Windows 11 ISO and instead of using the official Microsoft tool, use Rufus to create a bootable USB stick. You can specify a local account to create in the tool.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 6 points 5 days ago

Pointing out to this comment that suggest another option to bypass the account :

https://reddthat.com/comment/22001680

To be clear, I agree we shouldn't have to go through so many hoops to just not have an account on a local OS... At the same time I agree spreading misinformation on the subject is not good either...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

Probably allowing you to build up precious data before fully locking you out after an update.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Here is a fact: as long as you talk about workarounds, people stay on a hostile platform. Maybe better to actually teach people to fish and not be suckers.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Here is one of my strongest held opinions:

You should not lie to get people on your side.

If your arguments are not good enough, then perhaps it is better to let people do what they are used to.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No disagreement about lying to get people on your side. That was not necessary. But also, the arguments even without the lie are still good. Microsoft shouldn't have to lie too, to discourage people from having more control over their machines.

[–] hylobates@jlai.lu -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

OK, no workaround un Win11.

But that's beside the point: what about un 3 months? 2 years?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

There have been several workarounds in Windows 11 posted in this thread.

Everytime M$ pulls the ratchet tighter more people will escape, just let it happen naturaly.

Advice about the alternatives, but don't lie about either side.

There are things that Windows does better than the competition, the vice versa, be honest and argue in good faith.