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[–] RiverRabbits@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"us, the trainers" is a bit of a misnomer, if the training is done mostly by silicon valley cultists like Sam Altman and his ilk, who have shown that they do not understand reality.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Grammatical ambiguity!

I meant it as an actual list:

  • us: we generated the content of the internet, the books, etc. I do mean all of us, as the creators of the cultural landscape from which training data was drawn.
  • the trainers: these are the people who made choices to curate the training sets.
  • the shapers: these are the people like Altman who hire the trainers and shape what the AIs are for

So there is a progression here: the shapers hire the trainers who choose what to train on from the content that we created.

Oh, sorry! I thought this was like "Mike Tyson, the boxer,..." - an embedded sentence expaining something in more detail! The actual meaning you meant to convey is much more fitting :)

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

there's an Oxford comma there, so "us" and "the trainers" are separate entities