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Paris is saying ‘non’ to a US-style hellscape of supersized cars – and so should the rest of Europe (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 11 months ago by HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works to c/europe@feddit.de
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[–] grayman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The US is full of SUVs because of CAFE law. SUVs are trucks and thus have lower mpg requirements. Look at what's sold in the US. Almost all cars are tiny and grossly underpowered if more than 1 adult is in it. So our choices are a truck, SUV, or minivan.

[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get the feeling you’ve never been outside North America if you think cars here are small.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think he's talking about all non-suv or trucks in the US being small or underpowered. Not other country cars being small.

[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Well, except the article is about Paris and cars in the US are not small or underpowered.. at all. Kind of a ridiculous statement, actually. The average car in Europe is much smaller than those in the US with a much smaller engine. For example, the most popular car in France in 2022 was the Peugot 208 with a 1.2L engine with around 74hp and a length of 4m, while the most popular car in the US, the Camry has a engine options ranging between 2.4L-3.5L, around 208hp and a length of 4.8m (almost 3’ longer for you yanks).

I mean, they have to be. European fuel prices are double or more and most countries/cities have proper transit and were not built for US size cars (or any cars for that matter).

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can go on vacation for a month with my family of four in my 2008 Prius

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'll take the roof!

I also have a small sedan. Power is worse than the small sedan I had 20 years ago. At least it's safer.