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[โ€“] misk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The source they're citing is a single person that's not likely to be impartial.

[โ€“] letmesleep@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That doesn't change that the option is on the table and has been for years. It's it the EU's de-facto constitution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union

[โ€“] misk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do know about it. I don't believe nobody would have covered for Orban.

[โ€“] letmesleep@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

I guess that depends on what the other leaders said. Even outside EU rules states can exert quite a bit of pressure on other states hence I don't believe that a small country like Slovakia, despite it's Russian-friendly government, would dare to become the target of the ire of the countries making up 97% of the EU's population and 98% of its GDP.

[โ€“] rstein@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Poland would have under PiS, but not anymore. Unless Slovakia steps up, who would? All others see Orban as a criminal, who siphons money off and ruins his country.

[โ€“] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Prime suspects would be Slovakia and Austria in this case. My point was slightly different though: this is just one thing where Hungary might have seemed isolated but I'm pretty sure there are other matters where threat of Hungary veto stopped some initiatives before they could be considered in full.

Imagine EU directive making all member states need to recognize same sex civil unions. Hungary would obviously veto it so why would you bother but there's still Bulgaria, Romania and Poland that could say nothing and hide behind Hungary.

[โ€“] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Identifying the breach requires unanimity (excluding the state concerned), but sanctions require only a qualified majority.

Wait, how does this work? Can sanctions be instated without identifying a country as being in breach? Or is unanimity first required, and only after that, the majority can decide what the sanction is?