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No they don't. They only do that if you become too powerful. Nobody can be more than Xi Ping. If you are then you get punished..

only if threatens the politburo that is, just like JACK MA was getting to big and they made up charges to get rid of him.

Ehhhh so and so. They imprison you once it gets too public. Otherwise they're happy about the money.

Lol I have never installed the TikTok app even. I can show you a screenshot from the App Store if you don't believe me.

They are sending jets and navy ships to sovereign nations all over south east Asia.

Definitely an issue regionally (and globally because TSMC), but a non-issue to anyone living in China (unless they have family at one of those countries)

Even building man made island to build bases to do so

I agreed, it's bullshit bad faith diplomacy.

There is a social points system that is designed to punish the poor and middle class.

Same as the credit score system in the US then. It's provincial, anyway, not a centralized system. A lot of people in China are saying it doesn't affect their lives too much. Many haven't heard of it.

There is a literal concentration camp for theUyghurs because of their religion.

So this is the worst of them all. But then nearly every single article about it is written by, or cites, Adrian Zenz, a notoriously anti-China reporter. The multi-million person concentration camps might be a myth. There's definitely some human rights abuses going on there though, even the UN has reported on that. But again, this doesn't affect most people.

We're talking about over a billion people in one country. 99.9% of them aren't going to be affected by any of this. Can you say the same regarding the systemic racism, the ICE raids, etc, in the US? And those are accelerating, China seems to be keeping their authoritarianism stable.

social point system has been found out not to be universal, and not all china's provinces have adopted it all. and its not enforced by the ccp.

100% bullshit cooked up by the US state department, be better

The money, however, is in the US and China. You'll have a better life on average in Europe, but if you're super aspirational about your career and total compensation, Europe sucks.

Yeah. And before this the world didn't only consist of USA but we hinged these conversations on USA. I was commenting in that context.

The number of times I have used TikTok in my life is the integer just below 1.

(And now I am getting a sense of what that "other kind" of echo chamber these platforms are becoming as opposed to that kind of echo chamber Twitter etc are)

I mean the damn thing is banned here.

Absolutely!

The US was born from genocide and built by slavery. We've been at war constantly for close to three centuries now. We have a long and extremely well documented history of invading and overthrowing democratically elected governments around the world to further our foreign policy that is still verifiably ongoing. We have military bases occupying every habitable continent. We have the largest prison population on earth both total and per capita, and we have explicit allowance in our constitution for slavery as a punishment, this is not a coincidence. We let our law enforcement murder people with impunity. Our elected officials engage in blatant bribery and open corruption without consequence, and we're finding new ways to lower the bar on that front every day. We surveil our own citizens and the rest of the world constantly, and we use that information to bully and blackmail dissenters into submission, and when that fails we assassinate them. Our government knowingly allowed Epstein to sex traffic children for years unimpeded because it gave us an easy way to control a bunch of celebrities and foreign dignitaries, and when he became a liability he was extrajudicially murdered. We spend billions maintaining our surveillance and military occupation networks while our own citizens die from preventable illnesses and the breakdown of basic infrastructure. We're actively gutting our education system, medical care is increasingly unaffordable and for people outside of major urban centers straight up unavailable as more hospitals are closed entirely. Economic inequality is worse than it's ever been, many americans have no hope of ever actually owning a home and are a paycheck or two away from financial ruin. We've always been fucking evil and we're getting worse at an accelerating rate.

What little military conflict China has been involved in over the same time frame, and the rest of their history for that matter, has been limited to their immediate surroundings, regardless of arguable justifiability the scope and scale are significantly smaller than the US. For per capita incarceration rate China isn't even in the top 100 globally, and their total prison population is lower than ours despite having more than 4 times our population. Chinese law enforcement and elected officials who abuse their positions are actually punished for it, up to and including execution, as are their billionaires. Clearly they also have a robust surveillance apparatus and aren't afraid to use it in support of their own foreign policy and domestic security, but we've got no evidence to suggest they're up to anything close to the sort of degenerate fuckery we've been committing. Their level of investment in domestic infrastructure is absolutely unmatched, they're actively prioritizing reduction of wealth inequality and regional disparity, directly improving rural areas, and and their allies benefit from similar improvements via the Belt & Road Initiative & similar programs. Their citizens have one of the highest rates of home ownership in the world, around 90%. However imperfect they may be they're causing far less harm overall than the US and are steadily improving.