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Saw this ad - what do we know about Cape? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by collar@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Happy to see a privacy-focused carrier, and it has better policies than any other carrier out there. But founder is formerly from Palantir and there’s a lot of VC money behind it (not inherently a problem, just flagging).

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[–] ivn@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where did you read that they gave police full access? I thought they were hacked.

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That's even worse then because they didn't even have a secure network from start. Be it willful ignorance or intentional assistance, its still a honeypot. This was a huge "I told you so" by a lot of the dark net community when it happened, a lot of people called it WAY ahead of time.

Encrochat isn't the only example, so i may have conflated it with one of these other Honeypot operations: ANOM, Phantom Secure , Ghost , SkyECC

You might be able to see a pattern here. People who actually want security and anonymity know that you can't trust those things over to a corporation or a bunch of tech broligarchs, they will either betray you intentionally or due to their incompetence.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see how being hacked make it "still a honeypot".

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

because it was being used to attract criminals into thinking it was a safe and legitimate service, while under theee surface it was relaying all the messages to law enforcement.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but

as far as we know they had no idea that it was hacked, so I don't see how you can get a "vibe" if they are blind to it
the criminals were already using it when LE discovered it and then hacked into it

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I guess we have different definitions of what a honeypot is then. I dont think it has to start as a honeypot to qualify as one once law enforcement is involved.

There are countless examples of this kind of infiltration on other services. you can call it something else but either way i think youd have to be a fool to trust an operation like that to be in any way secure from monitoring by law enforcement.