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[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

ChatControl 2.0, if passed means your entire device is backdoored so it doesn’t matter what apps you installl, they can get your info pre-encryption

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Custom roms is your best bed at that point. I do use GOS already.

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

It's great as long as you can guarantee that the person you're communicating on the receiving side does the same. Otherwise it's useless as your messages will be read on the receiving device. In practice it will make private communication extremely cumbersome and niche.

Also, the authorities can backdoor your custom ROM device at will, when seized.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago

I mean I don't see them back dooring GOS anytime soon. But your right both ends need to have a custom ROM.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Steganography. There’s more than one way to protect your communication.

And encryption in transit is better than no encryption at all (assuming the baddies don’t already have full access to your phone data).

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

assuming the baddies don’t already have full access to your phone data

That's the whole point of Chat Control 2.0

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Not quite; Chat Control hearkens back to Apple’s doomed attempt at on-device CSAM filtering - the idea is that on-device images and message contents would be scanned for known hashes. This means a nation state could go fishing on devices for known content, but it wouldn’t allow them to indiscriminately sift through all the content at rest — they’d have to know what they were looking for.

That’s where the steganography comes in, because the hash based approach will fail if the content they’re looking for is obscured in some manner.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Custom roms is your best bed

Didn't know they come with sleeping facilities. They're so versatile nowadays! SCNR