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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 645 points 21 hours ago (14 children)

And this is why having 3rd party app stores is important. It’s why it matters that Google is killing side loading, if two fucking companies get to decide what you can do on your phone, we’re in a bad spot technology wise

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 396 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

We're in a bad spot technology wise

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 36 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

We rapidly need to switch to Linux Mobile. PostmarketOS and Mobian are the two most promising projects, and I would highly recommend anyone reading this to donate to them if you have the means.

Both projects directly use your donations to hire developers to build and polish the critical essentials to get this alternative viable as a daily driver.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

While I full heartily agree with you, I'm pessimistic you will ever reach enough people with these alternatives. Even on privacy forums you hear people fervently defending how banking apps are mandatory. Those will never run on anything that isn't locked down. The eID proposal for the EU is also dependent on Android and iOS.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

how banking apps are mandatory.

This i don't get, i'd rather use home-banking from my home PC.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 8 hours ago

A lot of banks require their personal apps as 2FA to access your account. I would never agree to that.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 9 points 17 hours ago

It doesn't necessarily need to achieve mass adoption, it just needs to get to a 'good enough' point to make it viable for those who are willing or desperate to get away from big tech.

Linux still has plenty of people giving reasons why they won't switch, but it's now finally viable for many, including myself. I just want mobile Linux to get to that point too, even if there's still rough edges.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 57 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

And the open source movement is such a blind spot to the 'left' as well, even though technology freedom is critical if you want to be able to organise any type of resistance in the digital space.

Lemmy users largely get it, obviously, but centre left people will happily let themselves get locked into the Apple/Google walled gardens even though you're just giving that company a ridiculous amount of power over you.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 43 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Right? The collective dismissal of Mastodon from leftist influencers when the Muskening happened was eye opening.

Like, there's a collaborative, volunteer-based platform right over there. You want mutual aid? Open-source is as mutual-aid as it gets.

But it's nerd shit.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah it's unhinged, FOSS is as communism in practice as it gets right now and the left just ignores it, dismissing it as "tech bad" because they can only think in AnPrim brainrot terms most of the time and judge only by aesthetics and make sweeping generalisations about social media that lack any and all imagination.

[–] SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because they are controlled opposition.

The only time something not controlled got popular was TikTok and you saw how quickly both parties went to ban it in 2024 after normal people started talking about Gaza genocide in every day conversation. The American Congress worked together to ban it even though they couldn't agree on anything else.

It went from an Asian platform where Asian people in the West connected with each other outside the mainstream blue pill/red pill false choice and shared culture as well as history that isn't taught, to "here's the truth about Jesus" and "the world is flat debate me" after that vote. Now it's full on MAGA.

Mastodon is harder to control because servers can pop up organically, but I guess Threads was a hedge against that threat.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

The only time something not controlled got popular was TikTok

I'm not sure what you mean by controlled, but how I got to know it was as the malware that's recommended to everyone on the front page of the google play store, and then even factory preinstalled on a lot of them.

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[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I originally got introduced to sociallist idiology through Richard Stallman's speaches. I know he had some, uhh... "interesting" things to say about Epstein's victims (which I believe he has since redacted), but his speaches are absolutely still worth listening to just for the content alone.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, very disappointed by RMS' creepiness (the Epstein stuff isn't the only thing), but he was 100% right about software freedom.

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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 67 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No doubt. I’ve gotten to the point where I have like 6 apps on my phone and it’s in lockdown mode on iOS. And I’d be on grapheneOS if I wasn’t required to use iOS for work.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 62 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Can you have your job pay for an iPhone while you have a different personal phone? I’m a big fan of keeping a work device that’s separate from a personal device.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

I do this. Highly recommended.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 54 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I probably could, but I’m also a recovering drug addict and my partner is pretty hesitant about a second device as it’s another way to hide things. However I’m the head of the MDM team so I’m not really nervous about what the company can see

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 48 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I thought you were head of the MDMA team for a second and thought that could be rough as a recovering drug addict

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 23 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely got the experience required for the job

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 21 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

Oddly I’ve only tried MDMA a few times and it never really worked. There’s some anecdotal evidence that it doesn’t work for those with bipolar which I do have, that might be the one drug I could be in charge of with no temptation actually

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Eh... we may be bipolar then... weird.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, people should have listened to the people warning of privacy concerns with online services. Now that your data is valuable, companies will do anything to extract it from you.

Stop using those products, de-Google, install Linux, use self-hosted solutions.

It will take some effort to switch. You get to decide how much effort you’re willing to expend in order to not sacrifice all of your privacy and control of your digital lives.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 129 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

"Sideloading" is their term, invented to make it sound like something it is not. We should not use this word. The correct word is "installing".

You don't "sideload" on Windows when you install software outside of the Microsoft Store™️. There is no real difference or distinction with software on phones, so there is no need for a special word.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 38 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I can see Microsoft moving to the same sort of thinking as well. Apple already made Mac OS users jump through hoops when you want to install something from the internet or even through a third party package manager like homebrew.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 38 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Microsoft has been trying this for years already. That eventually led to Valve incresing their efforts in the Linux gaming front and releasing the Steam Deck.

See this

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 16 points 18 hours ago

Your phone is fucking you no matter what you do.

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