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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Okay but how does that work?

When your current ICE vehicle ceases functioning, you'll need to purchase a new vehicle. It is now more both more affordable and environmentally sound for that purchase to be an EV.

Is recharging them free?

To recharge the vehicle's battery, you will need to plug it into an electrical receptacle. You will need to pay for the electricity used to charge the battery. This is less expensive than refueling an ICE vehicle.

I hope this helps!

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

This is less expensive than refueling an ICE vehicle.

Not if Sam Altman has anything to say about it!

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Being facetious does nothing, really. You need to compare the whole energy chain from mining to use. It's a very simplistic view that isn't really right.

You need to compare energy density per kg of fuel source, efficiency of motor using said fuel, weight, use case, parts availability, etc. There's a whole heap youve left behind in your effort to be a smartass.

[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard for an EV to come off worse in emissions than an ICE vehicle. Not impossible, but difficult.

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

People who believe this are buying into misinformation spread by the fossil fuel lobby. Mining for battery components (primarily lithium) has far less environmental impact than petroleum extraction- at every step of the process. And there are overblown fears about battery life when they will typically outlast a combustion engine car's usable life. Plus lithium is recyclable whereas a combustion engine will continue burning more fuel.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

There's a whole heap youve left behind in your effort to be a smartass.

Sorry for not posting a dissertation in response to a tremendously stupid question. "Why would I buy a new car? It costs money! Does fuel cost money? I don't have money!" is not something that requires a thorough response.

[–] KhanCipher@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To recharge the vehicle's battery, you will need to plug it into an electrical receptacle. You will need to pay for the electricity used to charge the battery. This is less expensive than refueling an ICE vehicle.

I sure hope every home is built with a garage, and/or has actual infrastructure built out for that to be viable... oh right, it's not like that (I live in this little thing that everyone loves to conveniently fucking forget about, rural america), and I certainly don't have any faith that it would even come anywhere close to that in within the next several decades.

[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Rural America is going to have no trouble finding space to put 240v chargers, rural America has more space than it knows what to do with. For most of the people I know living in rural America adding something to their breaker box is childsplay

I don't have a carport or garage, I literally have a cord that comes off the side of my house and I park right there and get charged, wake up to a full battery every day.

It costs less the $1,000 to add charging infrastructure to a house. If you can park in the dirt next to the house you can charge, even better if you have a driveway or gravel.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Given the political climate, you should have clarified that ICE doesn't mean border patrol in this context, but rather Internal Combustion Engine. I haven't finished my first cup of coffee yet, and I had to think for a second.

Anyway, vehicles don't just up and quit. They can break down for a variety of reasons but can generally be repaired. However, batteries are a consumable resource. My battery might cost $200 to replace. An EV's battery is much bigger, and might cost $20,000 to replace. Of course it's going to last longer, but over time its capacity will diminish and eventually it will need to be replaced. At that point it might be more economical to buy a brand new EV, because like with any other vehicle, you don't know what else is going wrong with it.